My Hennessy Scout came in yesterday! I rushed out and set it up in my backyard. Okay, so 100 some yards away isn't exactly "backyard", but there just aren't any trees closer than the other side of the field. It took a little bit to get it set up, mostly because the fly is asymmetrical and the hammock is not. The straps need to set at about head level (5'5"-ish) in order for it to hang sufficiently above the ground with weight in it. The ropes seem to let any tightening knot slip no matter how tightly tied, but I can live with that.

I also found that the bottom entry slot is not quite as convenient as Hennessy would lead you to believe. It's easy enough to get into, but a pain to get out of. I still can't figure out why the guy lines on the hammock are elastic rope. Yes, it allows the hammock to sway, but it also make it a pain to stake down.

The only thing I can't get over is the fly. Why in Creation would you put an asym tarp on a symmetrical hammock?!? It doesn't make sense. The tarp doesn't properly cover the hammock, the corners just don't line up.

Anyway, on the good stuff. I plopped myself inside and felt like it was very roomy (much bigger than my tent of similar weight). I immediately noticed that besides the tarp not fitting properly, I would need to hang it on a separate ridge line in order for it to hang low enough with weight inside. I moved myself around so that I was laying diagonally with no problem. The wind was picking up and it looked like a storm was on its way, and since I'm still having trouble with the rainfly, I chose to pack up and head back to the house. I tossed on the snakeskins and found that they made tear down incredibly simple.

All in all, I am pleased with it and I'm waiting for a chance to use it for a night (hopefully this weekend). I do have a few questions. I am considering removing the guy lines on the hammock and just letting it sway like the old canvas ones I used in Scouts. Can anyone think of a reason that this is bad? Also, is there some secret to pitching an asym tarp over a normal hammock?

I think one of my first investments when I have the money will be a new tarp, as this one is a little small even if I find a way to properly pitch it. I think I'll even make one as the cost will be much lower and it shouldn't be difficult.

Thanks for all of your input, and happy hanging!

JackRabbit, it is pretty exciting isn't it?

I've never used the Scout model, but it does seem strange to put an Asym tarp with a non-Asym hammock.:confused: Is that the way the come or did Tom maybe make a mistake?

Anyway, I have had very good luck with attaching my Asym tarp to the trees BELOW the suspension. That keep the tarp low over you and will give you a lot more forgiveness with a poor fitting tarp if it rains. I can use the Asym tarp with any of my hammocks by setting-up this way. It probably isn't the best, but it works.:D

Happy hangin!

My Hennessy Scout came in yesterday!


Congratulations.

It took a little bit to get it set up, mostly because the fly is asymmetrical and the hammock is not.


You might want to try flipping the tarp over. That may sound odd, but the way the fly is cut, it does have a specific orientation. But, you're right about the coverage. Many people, including myself, don't feel the stock HH fly gives enough room for error.


The ropes seem to let any tightening knot slip no matter how tightly tied, but I can live with that.


What knot did you tie? The knot that HH recommends held well for me, at least until I replaced the spectra with webbing and buckles.


I also found that the bottom entry slot is not quite as convenient as Hennessy would lead you to believe. It's easy enough to get into, but a pain to get out of.

Getting in/out does take some getting used to, and is a BIG reason why many prefer top-loading hammocks. I find that I like to hang the HH a little higher than most people, simply so that I don't have to stoop when entering/exiting.


I still can't figure out why the guy lines on the hammock are elastic rope. Yes, it allows the hammock to sway, but it also make it a pain to stake down.

I like using the guy-outs with the HH because they help spread it out for that 'roomy feeling', at least in warm weather. You might try tying a loop in the end of the elastic rope to go around the stake.

Also, is there some secret to pitching an asym tarp over a normal hammock?

Besides flipping the tarp over, be sure to tie it to the tree seperately instead of using the included tensioner hooks. You can get better results that way.


I think one of my first investments when I have the money will be a new tarp, as this one is a little small even if I find a way to properly pitch it. I think I'll even make one as the cost will be much lower and it shouldn't be difficult.

The BlackCat (http://www.jhatkhat.com/Khat/camping/bcdir/) design is reportedly not difficult to make if you sew, and is very well thought of on this forum.

Hope you enjoy your new hammock!

Cannibal: I'm going to have to shoot them an email to find out about the tarp. The directions on the stuff sack indicate that it is an asym, but it also indicates a weight limit of 250 lbs. The site rates it at 200 lbs., so I believe the directions are just copied from their other hammocks. As for the tarp ridge line, that was what I planning on doing. I had read it on one of the other threads, but thought I would try it the "Hennessy" way first.

AngrySparrow: I tried flipping the tarp once, but it may have needed flipped width wise instead of length wise (although that seems to put the wrong side out). I will give it a try. I tied a taughtline hitch, which isn't supposed to slip, but it did. I didn't understand the knot it was suggesting from the description on the bag, but looking at the website it seems clear now. I will have to try that as well. The BlackCat was on my list of possibilities, but I thought I might just go for a diamond shape at first since I'm not to good at sewing. It will largely depend on how adventurous I feel when I go to make it.

Thanks for the tips!

I have a HH Scout, too. I don't remember the tarp being asym. I will pull it out and check it out. I got the large poly hex tarp from HH at the same time as the scout, so the stock tarp didn't stay on it long.

I edited my original post, but it aparently didn't take. Second time that has happened. It may still show up...

Anyway, yes, the original tarp is asym. It doesn't fold in half equally in any direction like a true diamond would. Don't know the reasoning behind that. I use the large poly hex tarp, so can't really say much about how it works.

My Scout bag says 200 lbs.

I use the large poly hex tarp, so can't really say much about how it works.



Have you had that large hex tarp long? I was just wondering how it does in windy weather. I have often considered the HH silnylon version of that tarp.

I hate to admit it, but the only time I've had my hammock up was at the hang-out. The only real weather that we had was within 10 minutes of hanging my hammock. I was enjoying being dry, and don't really remember much about details. The rest of the weekend was calm and dry. After Smithobx and Darby helped me tighten everything up, it seemed to stay in place pretty well.

The pictures of my setup are in the gallery, in the get togethers section. Mine has the camp chair under it. I am also thinking about the silnylon version, or a rectangular silnylon tarp that is basically the same size. The tarp worked well, and spoiled me for the larger size. It is 1lb9oz, if I remember right, and is the main reason my hammock setup is not as light as my ultra-light six moons designs tent.

Well, it is good to know that I got the right thing. That still means I need to figure out how to get proper coverage. Just another excuse for playing around outside I suppose. As for the weight limit: the front, which is clearly for the Scout, says 200; on the back under the care and maintenance section it says 250. That's why I think the back (except for the very top of it which says the model) is just a standard set of instructions they print on all the hammocks.

Thanks for saving me the trouble of sending HH an email.

Well, it is good to know that I got the right thing. That still means I need to figure out how to get proper coverage. Just another excuse for playing around outside I suppose. As for the weight limit: the front, which is clearly for the Scout, says 200; on the back under the care and maintenance section it says 250. That's why I think the back (except for the very top of it which says the model) is just a standard set of instructions they print on all the hammocks.

Thanks for saving me the trouble of sending HH an email.

JackRabbit,

There are a lot of good hammock tarps out there for a good reason.... check out the tarp section of JJ site...

Welcome to the hanging gang and the site...

The tarp fix is important.... make sure that your answer, what ever you chose, provides side coverage, for wind protection that you'll be happy with when site selection is a little less than ideal.

Before the temps drop make sure that you get a bottom insulation plan that will keep you warm and be flexible to support the temp range likey in your hammocking future.... read the archives here and at www.whiteblaze.com in the hammock forums for years of discussions on all the options pluses/minuses.... "remember quality doesn't cost - It pays."

Pan

Another 'feature' of the HH hammocks I wrote about after the hangout is that there is NO WAY to be quiet when opening the velcro exit in the middle of the night to make those late night trips. Almost everyone in the campground will know. Well, at least anyone tied to the same tree as you (shadowmoss waves at Jeff).

Another 'feature' of the HH hammocks I wrote about after the hangout is that there is NO WAY to be quiet when opening the velcro exit in the middle of the night to make those late night trips. Almost everyone in the campground will know. Well, at least anyone tied to the same tree as you (shadowmoss waves at Jeff).

Yea I hate that velcro noise. It can be minimized by being very slow when
you undo it but that is a pain when your bladder is about to bust.

Yea I hate that velcro noise. It can be minimized by being very slow when
you undo it but that is a pain when your bladder is about to bust.

I'm sure that could be a major issue for someone who doesn't want to be heard as they get up in the middle of the night to water the flowers. Kind of makes you think, though, what is more important to that person? Stealth or the chance of incontinence?

I'm sure that could be a major issue for someone who doesn't want to be heard as they get up in the middle of the night to water the flowers. Kind of makes you think, though, what is more important to that person? Stealth or the chance of incontinence?

Stealth peeing is the way for me.:p

Stealth peeing is the way for me.:p

Waking dark, pressure
Velcro rips, the camp disturbed
Next trip : pee bottle

Grizz

Pee bottle, hmm . . . . *considers having to explain a leaky bottle in the morning*

Anyway, played around with the hammock some more this afternoon. I think I have the tarp pitched more or less as good as it will get, except that I have yet to add the new ridge line. It is close to providing adequate coverage for a mild rain, and I think the new ridge line will make it good enough. I am, however, going to have to replace it. It is just too small. This kind of disappoints me, because I had chosen the Hennessy because it came with a rainfly unlike the others in my price range. Oh, well. Live and learn, right?

As for the knot; I tried the Hennessy one, but quickly decided on another that was suggested by my brother (who is keenly interested in hammocks now that he has seen mine). I tied a taughtline hitch and then, after tightening, tightly wrapped the remaining rope around the loop created by the knot ending it in a half-hitch. This allows me to get it all set up and tighten to satisfaction, and then do the coiling to prevent the taughtline from slipping.

It seems that the tie outs on the hammock are necessary, at least while you have no pad in the hammock to spread it out. I think I will try replacing the elastic lines with some nylon rope. If I find that I till need some stretch, I will add some surgical tubing in a similar way to what you would for a tensioner.

Thanks again.

Now that you have used the tree huggers, go over and read about ring buckles. They are the easy way to hang the hammock. And, you don't have to permanently modify your hammock.

Next trip : pee bottle


That's easy for you guys to say...

Pee bottle, hmm . . . . *considers having to explain a leaky bottle in the morning*

. I think I will try replacing the elastic lines with some nylon rope. If I find that I till need some stretch, I will add some surgical tubing in a similar way to what you would for a tensioner.

Thanks again.

jackrabbit... let us know how replacing the stretchy shock cord works, but i would suspect you to need quite a bit of stretch when the hammock swings.
and about the pee bottle... i've had the same concern, but my gatorade bottle has never leaked a drop... even when it partly collapsed from cooling<g>.

gaak! TMI!

JackRabbit, take Shadowmoss's advice and explore some other suspension options. A lot of us use ring buckles or CC buckles to attach to trees; they just make life a little easier. :)

I probably will try other suspension methods (at least picking up a couple rated biners for quick set up of the current system), but I think the new tarp is my first priority. Since most of my money is going towards college, I need to work towards one thing at a time. The hammock itself was pretty much the last of what I had set aside for camping stuff.

"remember quality doesn't cost - It pays."

BRILLIANT!!

(shadowmoss waves at Jeff).

No worries...every time I woke up I thought about how great it was to be camping instead of working. :D

...my gatorade bottle has never leaked a drop... even when it partly collapsed from cooling<g>.

I've heard about ice running through folks' veins, but... :eek:

But Clint Eastwood pees napalm...I guess a pee bottle wouldn't be weight-efficient for him. (Heartbreak Ridge)

I've never actually used a pee bottle in a hammock. I brought it a few times on winter trips but didn't need it. I actually brought the 48oz softsided Nalgene cantene on two trips...I figured it would make a better hot water bottle to snuggle with than a water bottle!