What is your favorite material for a hammock ridge line and why?
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What is your favorite material for a hammock ridge line and why?
I've used all sorts from amsteel, to dyna, to climbing and zing-it/lash-it. For most cases now, simplicity and lightness I use zing-it/lash-it. Seems to work great.
I'm a 1.75 mm Zing-It fan. It's light, strong (480 lb. breaking strength), and spliceable. Other than 7/64" Amsteel, it's the only other rope I carry. I can use it for tarp guylines, hammock or tarp ridgelines, and soft shackle prusiks (to attach tarp to the tarp ridgeline).
Oh, and Dutch Titanium Hooks were made for 1.75 mm Zing-It. That's another reason.
What he ^ said. I used amsteel I the past, as that was all I had, but have since started using lash-it/zing-it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr
And don't forget, the Dutch tarp flyz are made for zing-it/lash-it.:D:D
Dutch hooks are on their way, hope they arrive today to use at Hot Springs Hang this weekend. Hate to sound too girly, but I love the tiny size of those hooks!
Better learn how to splice a fixed loop or locked brummel quick so you don't lose those tiny Dutch hooks. Or you could just tie a knot, but where's the fun in that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper
I now have 1.75mm Zing-it on all 3 of my hammock ridgelines. As said before, plenty strong and very light. I have replaced 7/64" ridgelines as that is just overkill.
Tech Line from DIY Gear Supply. Works freaking awesome and weighs nothing. I use the 1.2mm.
http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/p...age/cord-line/
Right? I am working on it, and will be receiving a lesson this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr
Magical stuff...wish it came in olive drabQuote:
Originally Posted by blaktee
Ace Hardware no name nylon cord with mason line prussiks attatched. Simple easy and cheap.
Picked up some of that 1.2mm for my bear bag line...when it's hung, it's so thin that I can't see it unless I'm right on top if the bag. I look for the bag, not the line (which isn't always easy; the bag's olive brown)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper
Anyway, while it might not quite match the MARPAT, it'll still be hard to see from more'n ten feet.
Hope it helps!
They're here!
There have been, in the past, discussions on what role, if any, a ridgeline might play in protecting the hammock occupant from falling limbs. Some don't think there's any protection to be had; I do, and use Dynaglide.
Being a gram weenie, I like 1.2mm tech line from DIYGearSupply. However, you must hang the suspension at 30 degrees. This stuff will break if you try to stretch it out between trees that are too far apart.
Another idea that I think is smart, is to make a dynaglide whoopie ridgeline. It is smart because it can be used as a back-up suspension for your hammock should something fail. You can hang without a ridgeline, but not without a suspension. And, it weighs only grams more than the 1.2mm tech line. So why haven't I been smart enough to adopt this? I don't know! :confused:
I like 2.2 lash-it for all the reasons stated. Strong and tiny and not hard to splice.
I also like to think, "What would MAD777 do?" and then I don't do that. :D (I am not counting grams...)
Olive Drab? I use paracord with a taughtline hitch to determine most appropriate slack dangle, then after best practice length found, tech line or zing-it.
I use 1.75mm zing-it/lash-it. I like that it can be spliced and won't stretch. I used type III paracord and it stretched enough to diminishes the advantages of a structural ridge line.
I have used tech line in the past, and it worked well. I recently got some dynaglide intending to use it for something else, but it became my new ridge line. I think I am going to really be happy with it since I am a big guy. It will be more forgiving if I get my hang angle a little off.
I used the black 1/16" poly cord from DIY Gear Supply a couple weekends ago without trouble.
I got mine yesterday Michelle. Cool!Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/p...ictureid=16339
I'll try the 1/16 poly now that I found that piece, but if it pops off on me again, I think I will plan to go with the techline (w Dutchware, baby!)
Ooo...mixed bag!Quote:
Originally Posted by perrito
ps whattup w your quote?
oh boy ........Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper
S- biner broke, the poly didn't. I think the 1/16 " poly is plenty strong enough for a lightweight like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper
I've been splicing Dutch hooks into zing-it loops to form prusik shackles and finding quite a few uses.
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...shackle+prusik
David
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Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper
Tee hee...:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by snare
I have a feeling that no matter how I respond....Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper
:unsure:
either tech line b/c it is light and cheap or amsteel b/c I have it laying around
You're wrong???:DQuote:
Originally Posted by perrito
This is when I leave the room.
All in good fun. I'll stop here. Dave.... Dave.....
LOL...boys and girls CAN get along, even out in the woods. ;)
I cringe when a small, hard cord is wrapped around a tree for a ridge line. The forces that weather exerts upon a tarp, and transferred to bark through the line, can easily exceed that of a man in a hammock. In fact, stone can be cut with sand-impregnated string. So, tree straps, right? We can still use a Dutch clip.
A small line can cut your tarp in two, as well. I've seen it happen!
Prusiks tight enough to divide the load between tarp and continuous ridge line but still allow the tarp to rest upon it from downward pressure in a blow or to deflect a deadfall seems ideal.
Then, someone needs to develop a velour treatment for ridge lines to give the tarp a softer surface to bear upon. I may experiment with 100 grit sandpaper on the 9/64" polyester clothes line I bought for $2.39 at the hardware store.
Mike
I use Dynaglide for all my ridgelines now, it's lightweight and very, very strong for its size. It's slightly more expensive than some weaker lines out there, but I'm willing to pay a couple extra bucks for some added widowmaker protection.
I also use Dynaglide for "Widow-maker" protection and lash-it for Prussiks (two different line diameters) on my continuous ridgeline, which is "outside or over" the tarp and not "underneath", therefore chaffing of the tarp material as a result of rubbing on the ridgeline is not an issue at all.
An as for the signature line...I agree with OldGringo....no matter what you say, it will be wrong....plead the fifth brother....and offer to pay for an ice cream the next time you meet up with the girl. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I was going to change my WBBB ridge line to zing-it or something lighter weight, but I have reconsidered. In fact I am changing my tarp ridge line to amsteel. I think it is worth the extra weight for the protection from falling limbs. I look for widow makers, but green limbs will fall in a strong thunder storm. We only had 30 to 35 mph winds from Isaac and it took 3 to 4 inch green limbs from my large oak. Really, what is the weight difference?
good catch mad, thanks! ... maybe it's a job for mythbusters... they could test on buster :-) it would be great to see hammock related episodes
but to answer the op: 7/64 amsteel for me - reliable, durable and lightweight...
I believe the OP is asking about hammock ridgelines (not tarp). Somehow I doubt that if a limb big enough to do you in, would be stopped by any ridgeline. But I have no evidence to back that up. Maybe we can petition Samson Rope Co. to include that protocol in their testing program. Any volunteers? :eek:
Yup, hammock ridgeline it is.....in that case.....Red 7/64 Amsteel Blue and for ....Widow Maker protection, and the size of the cord makes it much easier to splice.
7/64 Amsteel Blue is just what I had after making whoopies.
+1 on what MAD777 on widow makers not being stopped by a ridgeline. No evidence, but doesn't seem likely.
Yep, 7/64th amsteel has a 1400 pound break strength vs Zing-it at 400 pounds, I like the extra 1000 pounds of Widow Maker protection. Of course with the tarp line I am up to 2,800 pounds of protection.
Lots of variables to be considered, but you're right, a direct hit by a big'un won't be stopped. What will happen, though, is some of that energy will be absorbed by the r/l prior to failure. Or maybe it won't fail, and will become a fulcrum around which the limb will pivot before hitting the ground on one end, and then it will fail. Either way, I'll settle for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAD777
Me too! :sleep:Quote:
Originally Posted by oldgringo