Suspension weigh in...whats your weight?

Suspension...how much does your complete system weigh?

So I have been working on my own flavor of suspension. I know that there are all sorts of proven suspension systems out there...and I thank all of you for the massive amount of information that has been shared on here...so awesome.

But its cold where I live (Northern Alberta), and so lately I find myself spending a lot of time learning new knots and trying out different ways to hang my hammock from the joists in my basement:) I've been trying out all sorts of things...marlin spike hitch, dutch buckle, elephant trunks, sewn loop straps, water knot straps, descending rings, single line suspension, 3 to 1 zing it suspension so on and so forth...all sorts of stuff.

I've run the gambit from total extreme maximum adjustability systems to total minimalist...pretty much nothing to it systems. I'm finally getting close to something I really like...meaning it works for my particular brand of hammock "madness" (just enough simplicity vs adjustability)...and it occurred to me that this may be a good time to do a weight check to see where I'm at :)

So far my official weight...including the larkshead loops on the hammock is 150g.

I know I can get it way lighter...but as it is right now its pretty sweet...in terms of functionality and ease of use...from a ****** noobs perspective :)

So calling all gramers...whats your weight?...suspension wise:)

With all that said...I have one admission that I have to make...which I'm sure wont agree with many of you.

I'm a whoopie sling virgin...I know...i'm sorry...but I ruled it out because I believe it restricts how close I am able to hang to a tree or strap.

It is an important feature to me because I like to be able to remove the structural ridge line from the hammock, hang one end super close to the tree and effectively turn my hammock into a lazy boy:)

Whoopies, 5' straps, toggles 120g.

120g nice :)

yes the set I weighed are 40g.

Mine will be around the same as mr tattoo's then, a little more as my straps are 6 ft atm. Check out sgt rocks 1 oz :eek: suspension, "yer gonna die" :p.

The one I use is 88g for the pair. 5' tree strap rated at 900# and 5.5' Dynaglide whoopies.

I made a set that came in at 70g with 3' straps and Dynaglide UCRs but was unhappy with the fiddle factor. For me it wasn't worth the weight savings.

If you used a small continuous loop larksheaded on your hammock you can use a Dutch Whoopie hook to connect to a whoopie sling. If you want to get close to the tree on one end, remove the whoopie sling and put the continuous loop that's on the hammock over a MSH. Just a thought.

27.9 grams per side, 55.8 grams total. 4.75' UCRs, with about 5' usable length with the WH on the end. I find it to be the simplest, cleanest system I've tried so far. I've tried a lot.

I think you kind of get use to what you are usually using and then anything that is slightly different develops a "fiddle factor" while you are learning it.

I use 1" wide by about 12' of webbing straps, with two aluminum rings on each side. 190 g for the pair. I like this system for it's easy adjustment and speed to set up. Most whoopie systems I've seen have a certain minimum length of about one to three feet next to the trees I find objectionable.

Note there is no additional length requirement for whoopies. See Bubba's post above. The hammock knot can be almost touching the tree. However, in the real world, it's the tarp that sets the minimum spacing between the trees.

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Originally Posted by MAD777

Note there is no additional length requirement for whoopies. See Bubba's post above. The hammock knot can be almost touching the tree. However, in the real world, it's the tarp that sets the minimum spacing between the trees.

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Pretty much. I've got mine in spaces less than 10', but it is because I have a 9' tarp and a 7' long hammock.

I keep a nerdy spreadsheet with the weights of all my gear. Per the attached, my suspension totals 151 grams.

204 Grams. I am using 2 x 10" Polyester Webbing Straps and 4 ring buckles. My Whoopie setup is 150ish grams. So I plan to keep using my cinch rings for now. Not enough weight difference to warrant the change.

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Originally Posted by Noob

I'm a whoopie sling virgin...I know...i'm sorry...but I ruled it out because I believe it restricts how close I am able to hang to a tree or strap.

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This belief is shared by others and reinforced in a recent lengthy video by Herr Professor Hammock when it is taken as a given.

Want to hang your hammock between closer trees? Surrender the assumption that the centerline must be in line with with the centers of the trees. Tie one or both ends instead to the side(s), or if the bury is long, even to points close to the backs (of small trees.)

Looking forward to expressions of concern for fiddle and measurements of the resultant torque on the trees. But, I didn't say this would be accomplished without addition of minor new skills.

May the force, torque, be with you.

I am now using 6ft 1INCH webbing with elephant trunks and whoopie slings I know tish tish not the way most do it but I like the flexibility And weight is 145grams. I Am not a gram weenie so the weight is not realy the reasoning behind my setup but it is light And very functional.

So it seems to me that other than the ultra light dyna glide useres that a suspention system between 100 to 150 grams is pretty much paar for the course.

Sgt Rock, once again I'm inspired by your ingenuity. Is 'mule tape' a trade name? can't find it over here. Any idea what it might be known as?

I say my suspension is a 100 to 80g I don't have it with me nor do I have a scale to measure.

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Originally Posted by Moel Siabod

Sgt Rock, once again I'm inspired by your ingenuity. Is 'mule tape' a trade name? can't find it over here. Any idea what it might be known as?

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Mule tape is this fabric tape used by construction contractors to run electrical lines through conduit pipe. It is very tough and light, but kind of odd compared to other strap fabric because of it's loose weave. It sort of "sticks" to tree bark like velcro a little, no adhesive really. It can be a boon setting up on big trees or an annoyance when you need to spin the strap a little to line it up right. Maybe it would work very well for DemostiX idea of setting up straps 90 degrees off center?

Here is an example of it where I got it from on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-x-5000-1...item23256bfbe2

I got it in three 100' hanks.

If you have electrical friends you can probalby get it for free because electric companies will barely use it then they will toss it. I have about 4 ft in webbing and a 6 ft whoopie attached to a dutch whoopie hook and a continuous loop inside my hammock.

And I'm still playing with mule tape. I do not yet endorse its use for everyone or every tree/situation.

Mule tape is just a thin polyester fiber strap, about one third the strength, by weight as Dyneema.

If price were less an object, about 2/3 the weight of whatever polyester strap / tree-hugger one uses could be saved by using Dyneema runners /slings /cordelettes, used by climbers. eg http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Climbi...d-Dynex-Runner A runner around the tree distributes the hammock load across a 0.8" surface.

Obviously the material they are made is out there; it just isn't sold at retail.

How come nobody uses Dyneema webbing for tree straps?

I don't usually count grams, but since you asked, I weighed. I have 2 tree huggers, 7' long with Dutch buckles and Dutch clips, and two whoopie slings. I didn't check the length of my whoopies, but a total weight of 171g. Not included in this weight are the 2 continiuos loops and Dutch whoopie hooks, that are on the hammock.

As for being able to shorten the length, if the trees are close enough, I don't even use the whoopie slings. I hook the loop right on the Dutch buckle. I have done this quite a few times. I do still carry the whoopie slings, to make sure I have enough length........RR

Inspired by sgt rock, I redid my suspension using ucr's. total weight is 67 grams. I'll be using it for the first time at the Florida hang 3.

Good luck. Tell me if you notice any tree damage and tree type.

well I'm using shorter huggers w/ dynaglide extensions...so I dont expect and tree damage. Funny thing is, Dutch made my UCR's w/ whoopie hooks on them. I was expecting/hoping for bigger weight savings over my whoopie slings, but they weigh the same. UCR w/ whoopie hook and whoopie sling are both 10 grams

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Originally Posted by Noob

How come nobody uses Dyneema webbing for tree straps?

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Per before: Price.

But, be the envy of your group, and go hi zoot.

It must be super expensive to prevent people with "hammock madness" from purchasing them?

Ballpark...what would say a six foot dyneema tree strap cost a guy?

Odd. Are they the same overall length? It only takes about 60% of the dynaglide required for a ws to make a ucr. There should be some savings.