Yes, we as a community endorse the use of tree straps to protect the tree form the thin diametre rope that can do damage. Using them also projects an image that we are conscientious about protecting the trees as well.
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Yes on the strap. John beat me to it. The tree really does not want that narrow band of high pressure around it.
I don't know the more PC name but the hangmans noose is a great slip knot that does not harm the rope. I use them all the time, just put something in the neck loop and it will tighten with out pulling though. I'll add a pic.Attachment 45853
All of the above, re: knots, de-rating, splicing, etc is true.
Another truth: there are hundreds of Warbonnets out there with double and triple fisherman's bends in their suspensions. No failures that I know of. So, if you want to tie a loop in your Amsteel, and don't want to learn to splice, it ain't the end of the world.
OldGringo,
I have Acctually had 2 people order our Chain Links specifically to replace knotted loops.
It does happen and amsteel is not best served for a knotted loop application. Splice it if you want to use amsteel or look ropes that are made for knots. Such as Blue Waters Titan cord or spider line. Both are better suited for knots than amsteel is.
Yep. I will tie a figure 8 in amsteel or spyderline all day long with a reduction to 80% strength, the same as whoopies
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=12319
Its a old thread but unless its been updated, its still valid.
Paul, were those Chain Links ordered to replace knotted loops that failed in service, or simply because the user preferred spliced loops?
I'm not advocating knots, but when I joined HF, and until Opie and you started producing spliced loops, that's all we used. I'm a splicer...you know that. It's cool, it's stronger, no argument. But knotting de-rates all cordage, and Dyneema is just so bloody strong that even when the wll is adjusted for the knots, it is still sufficient for many applications. In this case, the op wanted to make multiple passes around the tree, and then clip the tag end back to the standing part...virtually no load.
I have used knots in the field when splicing simply wasn't an option, and due mostly to laziness, at least one, tied in a light drizzle in Idaho, is still in service. One day...;)