I just got my WBBB and Superfly! I decided to give hammocking another try.
I want to get a line and stake set together to keep everything organized until I develop a system that works for me.
How many stakes are need for the hammock and fly?
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I just got my WBBB and Superfly! I decided to give hammocking another try.
I want to get a line and stake set together to keep everything organized until I develop a system that works for me.
How many stakes are need for the hammock and fly?
i usually take 8. 2 for the hammock pullouts, 1 for each superfly corner (I'll then string the door tie outs over to the corner tie stake if I'm using them). One stake for each side of the tarp on the pullouts (the two pullouts to to the same stake).
I'm a light weight backpacker so that works best for me. If weight wasn't a concern I'd probably go for 10 or 12.
I run 12 for that setup. This allows me to peg each of the doors out so i can close them up or have them a little open for venting.
I've only used mine once but I used 8 stakes. I did not use the pullouts, it worked but the extra room from them would have been nice. I let my friend use my other 4 because the ground was so loose his short stakes did nothing.
4 - bare minimum for the tarp with the doors either secured to the opposite corner or on the same side.
6 - as above plus two for the hammock.
8 - as above plus one per side for the side tie outs to provide more room under the tarp.
10 - as above plus one per end to secure the doors partially open.
12 - you can do all the tie outs
How many you take depends on whether you can take advantage of natural anchor points and on whether you are weight conscious or not.
Stakes? The only ones I think are necessary are of the ribeye variety. ;)
I carry 10. Every camp is unique terrain, wind, rain, dew, bushes or trees to tie to. I use what I need to set desired option, most times (with SuperFly and BlackBird) use 6 with SuperFly in porch mode.
If it is windy I use more stakes than when it is calm. It also depends on if I set it up in porch mode or not.
Thanks for the help folks.
Weight is not an issue................Unless we are talking about my ever expanding beer belly!
At this point, I will only be hammocking in the wooded lot that is my backyard. If I get into more hiking and overnighting, I may be a bit more concerned.
I just ordered a set of 8 MSR Groundhog Stakes to supplement my 6 DAC stakes that I used with my tent.
I'm in agreement with Bubba's analysis. I usually carry 8. With 6 I can do the corners and one on each side for hammock and both tie outs if I had to.
Great selection!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Tettnanger
4-12
Granted, I'm a newbie, but I was playing with my tap the other week to see what all I could do with it.
4 stakes - one for each corner of the tarp, line tied between the stakes on each side and the tieouts to my WBBB attached to that line. Doors pulled tight together and sticking out toward and tied to the same tree as hammock (or tied to side stakes or each other in the open position)
6 stakes - corners of SuperFly and pullouts of WBBB
8 stakes - corners of SuperFly, pullouts of SuperFly, pullouts of WBBB
10 stakes - corners of SF, pullouts of SF & WBBB, 1 stake for each pair of doors
12 stakes - everything has its own stake
6. The tie outs can be tied to trees, rocks, etc
6 usually used. I carry 8 MSR spikes. Two on the WBBB hammock tie outs, and each corner of the tarp. I usually just tie the doors to the opposing D-ring on the tarp tie-out. I usually tie the tarp tie-outs to a tree, often just the zipper side. So I have two extra stakes and have yet to use them.
Anyone mind posting their preferred measurements for tie outs on a Superfly? I'm thinking ten footers on the ridgeline, four footers on the doors, and eight footers on the corners... But what about the pull outs?
I carry 4 groundhogs at a minimum, but generally I try to use NatureStakes (TM) (sticks) whenever possible. As part of the LNT, I try to take no mud with me. ;)
Here is what Brandon recommends in his setup video: http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/setup.phpQuote:
Originally Posted by OldRagFreeze
Ridgeline: 12' each side (I personally use a continuous ridgeline 31' long)
Pullouts (each side of tarp): 12' line tied from one tie-out to the other. a 6' line pulls the 12' line down to the ground over a stick or hiking pole.
Corners: 6' line
Doors: 4' line
The total is:
4 - 12' lines
6 - 6' lines
4 - 4' lines
This system requires 10 stakes for the Superfly. Both doors on one end could share a stake and that would bring the stakes required to 8.
This is pretty close to what I use.Quote:
Originally Posted by markrvp
Oh wow, I missed that. Thanks! That's a lot of line though, I may try to dial that back a bit... 100' seems excessive!Quote:
Originally Posted by markrvp
The pullouts for the WBBB don't need to be much. I've used sticks a few times. If you're weight conscious but still wanting something you can use the tiny titanium stakes.
I use 4-6 unless there is a storm coming; depends on if I'm staking out the Bird, or just the shelf side.
I tie the doors to the corner stakes and usually tie-out the side panels to trees so that I'm not dealing with downward angles on the lines.
I always carry a couple of extra stakes (I like to lose stuff), so they are nearby if needed. :cool:
It takes 4-12 tie out points to properly deploy a Superfly. Not all points have to be stakes. I only use stakes when there isn't trees or brush to tie off to. Trees are harder to be pulled out of the ground than stakes.
On the WBBB, I don't stake the shelf side at all. The shelf is still every accessible. Furthermore, i removed the elastic cord entirely. I do stake the entry side as that makes for a lot more room in the hammock.
I know this is about the tarp but this nets one less stake.