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I received my UQP and ridge line organizer today and to say the least I am very pleased. The workman ship and attention to detail is outstanding. QZ help me pick the color and I'm very pleased the way it looks. Thanks to y'all (2QZQ) for great customer service and a quality product at a very good price. :D:D:D:D:D:D
They are good people. Great customer service and attention to detail.
I've been using one of their UQP on my last couple hangs and it amazing how much heat it adds to the underquilt. Stops all that heat loss from the breeze.
How would the 2qzq UQP work as a under cover replacement with SS pad? could get the silnylon. the same as the SS undercover. trying to save money..
The UQP is not designed to hold weight, but to just cover an underquilt. With that said, with a little creativity, one might be able to attach the UQP to the hammock body with gripclips or something similar. The shockcording on the UQP that attaches it to the hammock suspension would have to be altered so as to keep a pad up tight to the bottom of the hammock. If you can figure that out, you just might have something!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by codya95
I would go with the breathable UQP. Then you would not have to use a space blanket to keep the condensation from collecting in the foam.Quote:
Originally Posted by codya95
I've used my UQP on several hammocks with several different UQ's including an SS foam and have been able to get it adjusted with minimal effort.
The SS foam pad is very light and hugs your back from it's own suspension shockcords. I would think you could get the UQP adjusted just fine.
I've found you get the best fit by having someone lay in the hammock, then you adjust the end shockcord length so the UQP just touches the pad but does not compress it.
Then slowly tighten the edge shockcords to just close the gap along the edge of the hammock.
IMO, the 2QZQ breathable UQP is way better than the HHSS for all the reasons I listed above.
hth
do all the 2qzq UQP fit the HH i have the explorer. i think it would be a nice set up with the hennessy top cover and pad.
Hope I'm not stepping on any toes by offer my 2 cents?Quote:
Originally Posted by codya95
This is the coverage I get on a warbonnet black bird with a 3/4 winter 0 degree UQ.
IF your explorer is the same length the coverage should be the same.
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/p...ictureid=10011
not at all. that looks great...
anyone had condensation issues with the breathable protector? I'm really wanting one of these but don't want to try it out and potentially dip my UQ in a condensation puddle.
Tim uses his breathable UQP all the time when the weather is cold. He sleeps outside at lease 2-3 times a week...sometimes more, and never has a problem with condensation. ZQQuote:
Originally Posted by Slo
In the picture above I had frost all over the inside of the BBO from my breath. Me, the UQ and TQ were bone dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slo
2Q here....ZQ doesn't have the full picture and I thought I should clarify. I use my breathable all the time that's true. What needs to be clarified is that I also use my Advanced medical Bivy sheet that was made into a vapor barrier for my hammock. This item gets used when the outside temp drops below about 35°. It is a good vapor barier and also reflects heat. I know it works to keep condensation out of the underquilt because in the morning the hammock fabric is damp. This moisture would have been in the underquilt down if it wasn't there. Above 35° I don't use the vapor barrier. I've not experienced any condensation problems to date. The breathable UQP does a good job of keeping the wind from finding its way between the UQP and hammock...therefore more warmth, especially when I move from my back to a side sleeping position. Hope that helps some.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Questions
Do you put the bivy sheet between the hammock and the UQ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Questions
ten characters, should've read the whole thread, doing so now...
ZQ here...Yes, he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by billvann
So if I'm following this the layers go:
Hammock
Bivy sheet
Down UQ
UQP
Correct?
Correct....but note...with the Breathable UQP, Tim stated in post #12 that he uses the Bivy sheet only when the temps are below 35 degrees. ZQQuote:
Originally Posted by Syb
Got it. You two are the best!Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Questions
Don't want to hijack the thread, but here's a related question for UQP owners:
I bought tarp doors for my Edge tarp for those times the wind blows in the ends of the tarp set-up and chills me. Usually it's just my back that gets cold (40* F HG UQ) at temps between 40--47 F (4-8 C) when it's windy.
Do you think a breathable UQ Protector would provide enough windblockage to permit me to dispense with the heavy doors?
I'll take a stab at this....Quote:
Originally Posted by sturgeon
It is the wind associated with cold ambient temperature that robs the heat out of your underquilt...(hot goes to cold) Therefore whatever you can do to minimize the heat transfer from your UQ is beneficial. The doors will block some wind for sure but also mitigate rain and snow. Most tarps and doors do not come all the way to the ground so air movement is present.
I'd agree that the UQP is more directly responsible for minimizing heat loss, but I'm not willing to say to use the UQP only.... forgetting the doors. It's not an apples to apples comparison. There are times when my doors are needed to keep me comfortable, but there are times when the UQP is also required. I winter camp a good bit and often I use just the UQP without the doors...matter of fact I pitch the tarp in the porch mode ready to be pulled down if needed. The trick is to have a solution to whatever the weather throws at you balanced against the abiltiy to carry it. I lean towards my old BSA motto "Be prepared" and carry a bit more rather than other philosophies of go light and be willing to suffer through it. But to each his own.
2Q
I don't always take my tarp with doors but I always take my UQP.Quote:
Originally Posted by sturgeon
I just never know what mother nature will throw at me.
If you have a single layer hammock it's no more weight than double layer hammock guys carry and far more functional.
Thanks for the input, OutandBack and 2Questions! Much appreciated.
I think I'm sold on getting a UQ. I'll just have to experiment with and without doors after that. Maybe go down to just one door on one side.