I had an idea earlier..... I was reading a thread on here about toggles and this popped into my head...
Take 1-inch webbing and sew in the loops, one having a descender ring in it, the other open. Wrap that around a tree with the ring towards the hammock of course....
Use a whoopiesling with a toggle in the adjustable end.....insert the toggle through the ring, and adjust as normal.....easy, no knots and limited hardware (to lose or misplace).
Any thoughts on this?
When you use a toggle in a marlin spike hitch, the toggle does not bear the weight of the hammock - the strap bears the weight on the knot. It sounds as if the toggle would bear the weight in your setup so you would need very strong (& maybe heavy) toggles. Still, you may be on to something. Why don't you try it? Take pictures when you try the heavy duty toggles. Take video when you try the light duty toggles! :D
I was thinking a couple of quarter inch toggles made of aluminum....maybe two on each end.
It sounds like you need yourself a "PAIR OF BLOOMERS" :) (in case you don't know what the *#%+ im talking about there is a thread looking to name a piece of gear for just what you described.
I did see those in the for sale section....they would work, but I didn't want to use as much webbing.
Why bother with the added weight and bulk of the ring? :confused:
Using the tree hugger/toggle/whoopie sling combo in the usual way is lighter and just as easy to use.
Easy is good. :)
+1 Jerry, that set up looks to be the easiest and lightest set up. I watched Shugs video 1 time and was able to figure out the marlin spike. It ws so easy I had to watch the video again because I thought I did it wrong.
Originally Posted by JerryW
You could use your above mentioned idea minus the toggle and just girth hitch the fixed eye of the whoopie on the ring. You'd need a Dutch biner or some kind of biner to then attach the adjustable eye of the whoopie to a chainlink on the hammock.
I tried using a similar idea with just marlinspiking (is that even a word:lol:) the ring to any spot in the webbing just as you would a toggle and then using the way I just described above when I was nervous about the whoopie slipping off a toggle. There are no more worries about that now that I have a pair of Dutch biners. No adjustment is done at the toggle with the dutch biner setup.
At the end of the day, another big +1 to the K.I.S.S. approach of "traditional" toggle and MSH which is what I use (couldn't rationalize the added weight of 2 descender rings vs. 2 toggles).
I thought about doing something similar to this before. The other side effect to using this method is that you would always be hanging at the end of your strap which would vary by the tree's thickness in how it adds to your suspension length.
With a strap that runs through a loop on one end or a dutch biner or clip you have a tag end which you can really make as long as you want. By giving yourself some extra length you can accommodate big trees and even on the skinny ones you just stick the marlin spike where ever you want it.
Originally Posted by Gqgeek81
This is why I went with the MSH with the ring (when I was using that).
Some folks love their All in One suspension though, so per usual H.Y.O.H.