Sorry but I did not make it up Nort this weekend.............Sat. got side tracked and Sunday we got socked in w/snow............started to drive up this morning in my 97 2wd ford ranger w/empty bed except for gear......no traction and top speed didn't break 40..........4 hour drive was looking like 8...........cars in ditches....even passed a highway snowplow in the ditch....made the decision you all were not worth it:lol:....sorry, please do not take it personally:lol: Will get up there in the next few weeks...........added 280 lb of ballast (big difference) and looking at snowtires.........on the upside, the snow has started...........:boggle: