20* UQ winter test
Here's a little info I shared with the people over at BWCA.com on the hammock sub forum. I thought some here would find the review helpful or interesting.
I took my Hammock gear UQ out for a test run yesterday. I ordered it a while ago but never had it out under 23*. Here's the results from yesterdays 9* hang. I used my most minimal gear in the test to really see what it could do.
First of all, the gear:
-Warbonnet Blackbird in 1.1 fabric with a double bottom.I figured it was breezy and I purposely didn't want to block any wind or use my 1.7oz hammock for the test.
-Marmot Pinnacle 15* down bag loose on top of me like a quilt.
-I had on a baselayer only with a knit cap. No gloves, no down booties and just a normal pair of midweight socks.
-I had my Hammock Gear 20* incubator (full length) with a 2oz. overstuff.
- Sunny, nine degrees with a steady breeze making it 1-3* above Zero for the entire test.
- No tarp used because I did not want the wind blocked. I wanted the worst conditions knowing how wind robs the heat.
Now, I'm a cold sleeper normally and usually take along extra for the weather knowing this. I've been a pad user down to 10* for ten years and this is my first UQ.
I spent just about 3 hours in the hammock and had no trouble settling in. The UQ went right to work as they do sending up the warmth. Once in a while I felt that cold blast that comes in from the foot or the head end. In this case, it was just down my neck. This would take a simple adjustment of the draft collar on the UQ to fix and if I was dressed for an actual night out, I probably would have been fine.
It has been my long experience of over 3 decades of gear that you get what you pay for. I've been lucky at getting gear that has always functioned flawlessly with just two exceptions in that time. This piece of gear from Hammock Gear is one of the finest. There is no doubt that I could have stayed out all night with little more than I set out with on my test.
I liked it so much, I ordered another one yesterday. I now have a 0* incubator on order as my average nights out are usually below 40* and with proper UQ venting, it could be used for most of the year or dead of winter camping, which I also enjoy.
Cool review, thanks for sharing
ur going to love the 0°, hammockgear makes some incredible quilts!!!
Originally Posted by blaktee
My goal was to push the limits for me utilizing the 20* with the 2oz overstuff, knowing that I really also wanted the 0* at some point.
I figured if I was good with the 20*, I know I would be good with the 0*.
Now, I was ok in the test, but at no point was I really "warm" in it. I knew I wouldn't be since I set up the worst type of situation for my test. Just insulated enough to catch some ZZzzzz's. However, it would have worked, especially if I had on a fleece zipped up and other minor clothing options. I believe the 0* Inky will perform incredibly and I will even feel some of that UQ warmth radiate up in single digits.
But the underlying result of the test is what matters. I have a piece of high end gear designed for 20* that actually has a built in safety factor for some breeze or slightly lower temps if I were to encounter them. I did like the way it performed on my 23* night out and am very confident with it. Even more so now.
Gear is so subjective to the particular user. Nothing in the gear world is "one size fits all" and I just thought my particular findings for me being a cold sleeper type was interesting.
Good review. I have a strong feeling that quit a bit of HG gear is in the near future for me.
Do you think it would be the same story if you didn't have the 2oz of over stuff in there?
Thanks for the report! I have the exact same hammock/sleeping bag/clothing/UQ setup but 1oz overstuff instead of 2oz. I too like to push the limit so I can feel good about going to sleep at night when the temps drop.
Great review! I have one of those full-length HG underquilts in the "0" degree version and I am very happy with it, but haven't had it below 40 degrees yet. Its a bit of "overkill" for the winter conditions I usually encounter here in Alabama, but I don't like to sleep with a bunch of layers of clothes...and I am a cold sleeper. I have total peace of mind and comfort with it. I highly recommend it.
Originally Posted by LandoCommando
I honestly don't know. I got the extra because of down shift. I have a 20* Moonstone (great company that unfortunatley folded) bag in the color "Lightbulb" and you can see through it. It really gives you a lesson on how down shifts. That was the reason for the overstuff.
After getting my 20* Incubator, I doubt that there would be any thin spots. I got the 2oz just to be sure, but I'm sure without it, it wouldn't have been a problem. I'm sure it helps with the loft, which traps more dead air though.
Hard to tell
Now I'm waiting for some colder weather, which we'll easily get to try out my new 0* Inky.
Just ordered a 20 myself. Can't wait to try it out... Although to be fair 20 is my bottom temperature any way. Actually I'm happier not going below 30.