I just got some in the mail and I am liking them.
I also have the niteize figure-nines and I think these nanos will be better.
i've bought & put to use two of the other guy line kits w/ the same line adjusters.
i like that set. works great. my only complaint is that in really high winds the line adjusters can be forced to slip. but it's been rare when that happened. so it's not much of a complaint.
it's a strong, light weight guy line set.
TeeDee, were you the guy who originally found those and posted them on HQ? If so, huge thanks. I love those things!
You could put a bite in the guyline. That would allow you to make it shorter than half.
Have you tried the CC buckles? They're heavier than rings, but I really like them. I rank their speed and ease of use right up there with the Figure 9's. I haven't done much testing with the rings though, so I can't really compare.
when i use the micro-tentioners on my tarp guy lines, i form a clove hitch & insert the stake where i want it, & put the stake in the ground.
i just use the micro-tentioners for tightening the tarp as needed, not shortening the line.
the extra, un-used line is draped over & around the stake to help make it more visible when i'm moving around camp.
youngblood showed me the way he uses stakes & guy lines using the clove line hitch last year at the SEHHA, hot springs camp out.
at first i thought it would be more than i care to mess w/ if i'm tired & cold, but after i practiced forming the clove line hitch & then inserting the stake a few times, it became easy.
matter of fact... it's so easy... a cave man could do it:eek:
you can put the stake any where on the guy line you need to, just like that.
and when breaking camp, i slide the stake out of the hitch & it cleans the dirt off the stake in one motion.
A clove hitch can be really easy to tie. Make two loops the second one should go under he first one. Insert your stake. Very easy!
Here, is a bit more complicated version. The two loops are the clove hitch and you can stop there.
The buckles do bind under a lot of tension, but you can get around it with no hassle at all. When you're adjusting when you first hang, leave the suspension a little loose. Once you've got it where you want it, THEN crank down on the straps. After you've hung overnight, things will loosen up enough that the buckles don't bind anymore. Simple.
After reading the issues and solutions that have been reported with the ring system, I think I'll stick with my buckles. They're a complete no-brainer. No slippage, no worrying about attachment, no alignment concerns. I'll probably give the rings another try, but only in the interest of science :p