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  1. I sleep on my stomach sometimes in my WBBB XLC...

    I sleep on my stomach sometimes in my WBBB XLC and I do find it is better when the foot end is hung at the same height as the head end. I also find it works better with more sag, not less. Allows me...
  2. Rectangle hung diagonally just gives you more...

    Rectangle hung diagonally just gives you more ridgeline coverage but you need to hang it in the same direction of your lay... Feels weird cause your feet and head are close to the tarp but it's so...
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    I agree that 15' to 18' is about right. As far...

    I agree that 15' to 18' is about right.

    As far as sinking the pole... Can't go wrong with dropping the pole in and surrounding with 3/4" minus. Than you just take a metal rod, a steel fence post...
  4. Thread: banana lay

    by Solohammock
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    If your tightening up the knotty mod too much it...

    If your tightening up the knotty mod too much it will make you slide toward the center as well...
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    Not sure what search and rescue crew would use...

    Not sure what search and rescue crew would use just a single overhand loop for a person on a line but, please, let me know so I don't fall in that area! I've worked with my local SAR and a figure 8...
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    Most people do the single bolts on the...

    Most people do the single bolts on the rectangular side of the hinge so that the stand will fold up like a camera tripod.
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    Still seems like a bridge would work better for...

    Still seems like a bridge would work better for you... Just make it with a nice stretchy material and you will get a little sag without all the force working against you...
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    Wow, 15* with a 175lb hanger is alot to ask of...

    Wow, 15* with a 175lb hanger is alot to ask of the trees your hanging from... According to the chart in "The Ultimate Hang" the shear force on the trees is approx. 327lbs with that combo. The tensile...
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    Sounds like a good setup! Keep your eyes open, I...

    Sounds like a good setup! Keep your eyes open, I see packs pretty regularly here on the forum for reasonable prices...

    And making your own zing-it tarp ridgeline and tie outs is a great way to...
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    Ya, they didn't have any that were big enough at...

    Ya, they didn't have any that were big enough at home depot but those GT ones work great
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    One thing I've changed is that I don't use the...

    One thing I've changed is that I don't use the small clevis anymore... I had some of the s-hooks left from the original "suspension" on a Grand Trunk hammock. Their the same 1/4 inch size and they...
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    I bought a Mamjamba, thinking I would add the...

    I bought a Mamjamba, thinking I would add the door kit later for the winter, as my first tarp. Now I've decided, after checking out a Superfly setup a little while back, to just buy a Superfly... I'm...
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    I've done well thus far with just a 3/4 length...

    I've done well thus far with just a 3/4 length 20* quilt for hanging from around 15* this winter up to around 68* in the house... At the 15* temp I was using my 20* mummy bag like a TQ with a hat and...
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    Ya, what's your looking for is just what ends up...

    Ya, what's your looking for is just what ends up being a square knot. You take the CL that has the buckle on it, put that loop around the regular CL, then slide the buckle through the regular CL and...
  15. Once again, it's not the heat loss from the pee,...

    Once again, it's not the heat loss from the pee, it's the energy loss due to your body working to keep that pee warm. If it were true that our body heats our bladder and then our bladder could heat...
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    I've had my 3/4 20* quilt down to around 15* now...

    I've had my 3/4 20* quilt down to around 15* now with no problems.... Pad under my feet and I am pretty short but I went from having cold feet sometimes to not at all lately by just adding an UQ...
  17. Some of it can be how your laying as well... If...

    Some of it can be how your laying as well... If your limbs are getting cold, alot of times it's because they are above your heart so circulation is fighting gravity with your slowed heart rate......
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    I have a turtle dog stand, as well, but when I'm...

    I have a turtle dog stand, as well, but when I'm car pooling with others to scouting camp-outs its not always an option to bring 6' stands and a ridgepole with me in another persons vehicle......
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    Didn't know how to do the UCR's at the time and I...

    Didn't know how to do the UCR's at the time and I had seen the ENO Atlas straps and liked the idea so just made the same sort of thing with some Amsteel. I've made and used UCR's for other things now...
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    I put 4 figure 8's in the Amsteel on one side...

    I put 4 figure 8's in the Amsteel on one side creating 5 different loops that I can connect the caribiner to. Yes, it weakens the line but I'm using 1/8" Amsteel and I usually like to hang at a...
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    Ya thats it, your connecting the shock cord...

    Ya thats it, your connecting the shock cord that's used to snug up the end channels to attach it to your hammock. You need to use the larger shock cord that goes through the channels along the sides...
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    I match this gap myself at a local place I camp...

    I match this gap myself at a local place I camp with my scouts... I ended up with my tree straps about 11' up the trees and 8' Amsteel extensions to connect to my whoopies... My whoopies end up being...
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    I backpack regularly and the weight I was...

    I backpack regularly and the weight I was shooting for when I started putting my system together was 2.5lbs... I picked this number due to the fact that I was carrying a nice, 3 season MSR Hubba...
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    This is why I went with a WBBB XLC... 2 hammocks...

    This is why I went with a WBBB XLC... 2 hammocks in 1. A fully enclosed integrated bug net for the bug months and then an open top for winter hanging and just lounging. Also, I have been bitten...
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    ENO' are about 9'6", same with most other "major"...

    ENO' are about 9'6", same with most other "major" manufacturers. The WBBB XLC is also an 11' hammock and it is a great hammock with a few extra add on's, like the integrated bug net, the shelf, and...
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    It looks like your pulling the UQ out from the...

    It looks like your pulling the UQ out from the side and maybe staking it down? You don't need to, or really want to, do that. Your UQ should just be like a taco with the hammock laying in the middle...
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    Dutch's double whoopie hook is used for side by...

    Dutch's double whoopie hook is used for side by side hanging as well. My kids use it and they love it. Moving on one side will cause the other to bounce though and if one person gets up the other...
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    There are pics of the bunk bed style hanging here...

    There are pics of the bunk bed style hanging here :...
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    1 thing I can say about the ccf... You will get...

    1 thing I can say about the ccf... You will get condensation in some environments but, being you said you would use a sleeping bag at first, as long as you get into the sleeping bag so that layer is...
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    Ccf instead of the UQ but at least it wasn't a...

    Ccf instead of the UQ but at least it wasn't a bunch of money out the window and it helped to get me started...
    I bought the Mamajamba tarp rather than just buying a Superfly, thinking I would just...
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    Don't skimp out too much on a pack... After all,...

    Don't skimp out too much on a pack... After all, you will be wearing it for a good chunk of time. I am a fan of Osprey packs, I use an Exos 48 for three season use for up to a week with add water...
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    Sometimes you can find end of the year closeouts...

    Sometimes you can find end of the year closeouts on discontinued sleeping bags and such at REI and other retailers.
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    I'm in the same boat, as far as only having 1 UQ...

    I'm in the same boat, as far as only having 1 UQ right now, so when the wife is out with me she gets the UQ and I use ccf... Not as comfortable for the night but my ears sure are alot more cofortable...
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    Reflectix tends to collect condensation if it's...

    Reflectix tends to collect condensation if it's close to you... You shouldn't really need it. Take that wally world pad and cut it in half. Put them under you in such a way they create a "T" with the...
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    A truckers hitch works alright... As does a...

    A truckers hitch works alright... As does a tautline and other such sliding knots. Many times you just have to throw in an extra hitch to help the knot out. They will slip a bit here and there but...
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    I'm with Dingbat, the 45* lay is great! Sometimes...

    I'm with Dingbat, the 45* lay is great! Sometimes I do 45* half-back half-side and other times I'm good half-front half-side... I usually just use my fleece pullover for a pillow, its warm and if I...
  37. Welcome fellow Scoutmaster! The WBBB XLC is a...

    Welcome fellow Scoutmaster! The WBBB XLC is a great hammock and, yes, for beginners too. I am as big a fan of all Dutch's stuff as anyone else, but it does get really old hearing so many people act...
  38. Thread: Footbox

    by Solohammock
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    Nope, you can flip flop as much as you like. The...

    Nope, you can flip flop as much as you like. The foot box just helps to relieve a little pressure from the back of your knees. I have found that it is a bit annoying having all that solid side...
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    It was said but I just want to emphasize why just...

    It was said but I just want to emphasize why just an extra layer hanging down under you with a gap but no insulation won't work well enough by itself... Its kind of like using an air matress on the...
  40. Thread: Porch Mode

    by Solohammock
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    I'm in the PNW and hanging out in the driving...

    I'm in the PNW and hanging out in the driving rain alot as well... Rain = high humidity and condenstation, so your getting a little wet either way, may as well have a view even if it is of the moon...
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    My WBBB XLC came with an Amsteel ridgeline....

    My WBBB XLC came with an Amsteel ridgeline. Usually they are just looped around the suspension on each end like your talking about. I made a couple out of Zing-it for my kids hammocks and that works...
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    Yes gfstanley, I was thinking of a UCR... I've...

    Yes gfstanley, I was thinking of a UCR... I've used them for some large tarps (made from 1/8" Amsteel) from all 4 corners and they worked well. I used a separate strap around the tree and used a...
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    I've been thinking about making a set out of...

    I've been thinking about making a set out of zing-it for just this reason... I've been using a CRL but I hate the sag in the center of the tarp. When I'm just hanging in my back yard I tie out each...
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    The threads get opened up a bit more like that...

    The threads get opened up a bit more like that when they are sticking and you pull at a 90, or even further, to get them to start sliding again. They still look just fine though.
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    The problem is not the knot or zing-it, it's the...

    The problem is not the knot or zing-it, it's the mis-match of line guys... If you do want to stick with the reflective cord than, yep, better off using it on both sides. Another thing you can do is...
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    I adjusted the shock cord to the correct length...

    I adjusted the shock cord to the correct length then just added the same plastic hooks that came on my UQ. Dutch sells them. One is white and one is black so you can color coordinate for the head and...
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    On a lot of those reflective lines the reflective...

    On a lot of those reflective lines the reflective strand in the rope is thicker than the other strands, creating a bit of a bump... They don't mind gripping back to themselves but they just tend to...
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    You can also skip the headwear all together and...

    You can also skip the headwear all together and just square knot the CL and the fixed eye on the whoopie... Works fine as a water break and easy to slip them apart when your breaking camp...
  49. As far as quilts go I have found that having a...

    As far as quilts go I have found that having a 20* UQ with a selection of different sleeping bags (don't have a top quilt yet) ranging from just a 50* camping blanket to a 20* mummy bag has worked...
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    +1 on trying out an UQ protector.... I've found...

    +1 on trying out an UQ protector.... I've found it helps out alot to keep my feet warmer with my 3/4 length UQ. And they are full length so it will still be useful even if you do get a full length...
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