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the 3 season version (12.5oz)

yeah, i've been saying 30's for cold sleepers, 20's for warm sleepers. there's really a big difference between the 2. well see how accurate that is here in a couple months i guess.

all the comercially avail underquilts are made from water resistent dwr fabric. this is enough if you're using a normal sized tarp.

i tried it the other night. i used a 15x18 pad in the footbox.

i was actually thinking i could get by with shorter too since i use the stufffsac under my knees for comfort which would also probably provide plenty insulation for them and just leave me with...

the part above your feet is single layer, but any part you can lay on is double.

good to hear the leg pad works well between the layers also.

i was actually thinking about trying to make a very...

it's just easier to position it where it needs to be and re position if you move around. you only really only need it between the layers if it's going under your butt/torso

don't put the leg pad between the layers, a leg only pad is easier directly under your legs in the hammock.