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  1. I keep hoping someone will answer this... any new...

    I keep hoping someone will answer this... any new info in the last 18 months?
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    If I've successfully uploaded this, here's my...

    If I've successfully uploaded this, here's my summertime "big 3". Total is 5.37 lbs., just a hair under 3 lbs. without the pack and my "sit pad".

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    Well, it's not like you're only going to buy one...

    Well, it's not like you're only going to buy one hammock, pick one and see. My 1st hammock had a net, but I'd moved from tent to tarp previously and in the time/place I camp, bugs aren't a factor. I...
  4. So... while we're talking Kevlar straps and...

    So... while we're talking Kevlar straps and lightweight, would you put the strap through the loop and hang your hammock from an Amstel loop over a toggle?
  5. My lightest summer setup is a nano with...

    My lightest summer setup is a nano with whoopies/tree straps/toggle and the old MLD spinnaker fabric asym (w 2 titanium stakes) attached directly to the whoopies. (15.75 oz for all) and down 50°...
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    My "go to ground" emergency plan is to put my UQ...

    My "go to ground" emergency plan is to put my UQ in my pack, place the pack on my water proof stuff sack (that I use as a floor mat under my hammock) and place my foam pad under my feet (like in my...
  7. I like the way you think, matimeo ... why is the...

    I like the way you think, matimeo ... why is the Grand Trunk ultralight never mentioned in these "low cost starter" discussions? Never had one but they're less than $20 and Grand Trunk is a reputable...
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    I have a couple of Granite Gear packs, what they...

    I have a couple of Granite Gear packs, what they now call the Virga 2 (54l) and the Virga 26 (26l). Great quality, light weight and much less pricey than other packs of that ilk.
  9. I have a DIY tarp I made from tyvek kite fabric,...

    I have a DIY tarp I made from tyvek kite fabric, fun, but not quite what I was hoping for... anywho, it's enough to make a sock. I experimented by wrapping it around my "standard" setup and it did...
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    I love conceptual sketches! Thanks for sharing.

    I love conceptual sketches! Thanks for sharing.
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    I'd love to see some of your concept sketches!

    I'd love to see some of your concept sketches!
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    9.5 x 7 on a diagonal gives you 11-8 for a ridge...

    9.5 x 7 on a diagonal gives you 11-8 for a ridge length. Set it up before the hike to be comfortable, but it should work.
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    Try you're 9.5 x 7 tarp on a diagonal and see if...

    Try you're 9.5 x 7 tarp on a diagonal and see if you feel like you have enough coverage. You probably do.
  14. I've been using the Nano 7 for 4 or 5 years, I...

    I've been using the Nano 7 for 4 or 5 years, I have larger hammock and I find the Nano more comfortable. I'm 5-10, 175/bs... 175 lbs, 5 oz. if I'm holding the Nano with their niners removed.
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    I always hang my food and (now) use the yellow...

    I always hang my food and (now) use the yellow Usack Minor with a Loksak odor proof bag inside after I had what must have been a flying squirrel get into my food bag. I don't know if the odor proof...
  16. Interesting thought but looking at the Grand...

    Interesting thought but looking at the Grand Trunk solution, there are endless hammock/tarp combinations that are the same weight or less. Less rigging, my Nano and cuben tarp total 15 oz. Also, one...
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    I have 4 other hammocks and I keep coming back to...

    I have 4 other hammocks and I keep coming back to the Nano. I'm 5-10, 175 lbs. and I sleep comfortably on my side. The light weight is a bonus but I've changed out my whoopies for straps and dutch...
  18. Seems to me, that in established campsites in...

    Seems to me, that in established campsites in WNC, the biggest danger to trees comes from the redneckwithanaxealopius that seems to have girdled every tree in the clearing in many areas.
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    I like compactor bags (if you can find them...

    I like compactor bags (if you can find them unscented). I don't like how they seem to pick up dirt, leaves, other debris, so I use a nylon sack, water proof enough that unless my pack was submerged...
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    Glad you're still out there! When your trail...

    Glad you're still out there! When your trail journal went dark it was like having one of my favorite shows cancelled. :)
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    This has been pretty remarkable. Most of the...

    This has been pretty remarkable. Most of the people on the list, if they started at all, have not checked back in. Of those who have, it appears that only Grimtounge is still at it. His trail journal...
  22. I use a reasonably water proof sack and stuff all...

    I use a reasonably water proof sack and stuff all soft squish able items into it, ala' Mike Clelland. I don't use a trash compactor bag because when I use it as a "door mat" for my hammock, it picks...
  23. Since there are lots of side trails that...

    Since there are lots of side trails that intersect the AT, is it a simple as taking on and stealth camping?
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    Gee, I which I'd said that! It really is a...

    Gee, I which I'd said that! It really is a different thought on what a hammock is. Maybe it's a throne for the mythical Hammock King.
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    It seems like the taper, down to 14", would make...

    It seems like the taper, down to 14", would make it difficult to stay on, especially if using the shorter ones to save weight and mimic a 2/3 or 3/4 UQ. Any experience with this? I'm kinda sorta...
  26. 350 miles at my current fit but un-hiking fit...

    350 miles at my current fit but un-hiking fit geezerly pace of 10 to 12 miles a day... minus time off for re-supply and factoring in increased mileage after the 1st week... a month or less... mmm......
  27. How long a hike is this? 2 months? Less? Much...

    How long a hike is this? 2 months? Less? Much less? I've hiked most of these areas, a full loop would be sweet!
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    Well, duh... so do I. :D

    Well, duh... so do I. :D
  29. As others have said, there are many off the shelf...

    As others have said, there are many off the shelf inexpensive hammocks as well as easy DIY projects. Tarps can be had for very little cash if weight is not an issue and if you get a separate bug net,...
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    Must be those dag-nabbed whippersnappers. Hey,...

    Must be those dag-nabbed whippersnappers. Hey, you punks, get off my lawn!
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    Try Givhans Ferry State Park. I've never been,...

    Try Givhans Ferry State Park. I've never been, but it's not too far out and has "primitive group sites" and hiking trails. Those are usually good signs for hangers.
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    The subtlety is strong in this one. - Yoda

    The subtlety is strong in this one. - Yoda
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    I'm not sure a separate hammock adds more weight....

    I'm not sure a separate hammock adds more weight. I have a net from Papa Smurf that weighs 3 ops. I like that it covers the bottom too. I have been bitten through the bottom of my Hennessy. If I use...
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    Why would you carry extra gear? (Certainly,...

    Why would you carry extra gear? (Certainly, you're welcome to carry anything you'd like, HYOH and all that.) Anything soft, like extra clothes, goes in a sack that acts as my pillow, shoes hang from...
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    I have this dream of an unsupported thru hike...

    I have this dream of an unsupported thru hike with no mail drops so the idea of switching out quilts makes me cranky. Am I stupid too? (Be gentle.)
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    Just maybe your hammock and tarp setup is just...

    Just maybe your hammock and tarp setup is just right and that's NOT the place to cut significant weight. I think others have alluded to this- analyze everything you you carry, decide if you really...
  37. They CAN be, but in practice, they're not ideally...

    They CAN be, but in practice, they're not ideally interchangeable. My next gear purchase will be a poncho-ground sheet combo so that I could (perish the thought) go to ground. That +/- 7 oz and...
  38. This comparison is also made difficult by the...

    This comparison is also made difficult by the same truths that make the tent vs hammock WEIGHT more complex than the weight of the tent vs. the weight of the hammock and tarp. Hammocks need a pad or...
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    One of the reasons I so desperately wanted to...

    One of the reasons I so desperately wanted to make a pad work was for this issue... having the ability to sleep on the deck with a pad would avoid all problems except for the part about mice running...
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    I'll leave my hammock, tarp and quilts, hang my...

    I'll leave my hammock, tarp and quilts, hang my food and day hike... usually it's far enough from a trailhead that (I tell myself) I'd just follow them back to the car, take it from them as they lay...
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    "Now I just wish I had a place to hang it in my...

    "Now I just wish I had a place to hang it in my back yard. Not enough trees."

    I made a mistake and asked my wife if she approved of my choice for the location of eye-hooks in our house. I got The...
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    In the welcoming spirit of the Hammock Forum,...

    In the welcoming spirit of the Hammock Forum, what are you thinking? "Newbie but I know I want a BIAS!!!" You've done your research and you really think you'll pick a hammock, it will be great and...
  43. I'm at 25 ozs. I could drop another 2.5 with my...

    I'm at 25 ozs. I could drop another 2.5 with my smallest tarp.
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    My base weight is essentially the same, slightly...

    My base weight is essentially the same, slightly less than 10 lbs. It's easy to see the weight creep up. Add a book (or an e-reader), a chair (I do like a chair when I'm camping with others), an...
  45. "Switching" infers something entirely different...

    "Switching" infers something entirely different than "buying a new hammock because 1.. uh... 2.. err... 3 are not enough".
  46. It's been 10+ years, but we hiked from Clingman's...

    It's been 10+ years, but we hiked from Clingman's Dome to the Fontana Dam. My experience was that we could sleep in any shelter, although the permit says otherwise. We tried to stick to the...
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    Next up- helium infused cuben. At a minus 1.1 oz....

    Next up- helium infused cuben. At a minus 1.1 oz. per yard, the larger your tarp the lighter your weight. Unfortunately it will be 10 times the cost of cuben.
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    Two words: cuben tarp. You can get whatever...

    Two words: cuben tarp. You can get whatever coverage you desire at a fraction of the weight and 3 times the price. As one with a reputation for "thriftiness" it hurt to pay that much but the weight...
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    My top and under quilts together weigh 27 oz. but...

    My top and under quilts together weigh 27 oz. but they are considered 50 deg. quilts. I supplement with clothes and a Mylar space blanket slipped between the bottom of my hammock and my under quilt...
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    Here's my typical 3 season system, not my...

    Here's my typical 3 season system, not my lightest, not my heaviest.

    Hammock system
    Nano 7/whoopies =6.2
    stakes (4)x 0.35 =1.4
    tree straps/clips =4.0
    tarp & line =12.3
    hammock sack...
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