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It's all good - as my kids would say.

Being the newbie here I'm not trying to ruffle anybody's feathers. Just trying to provide some numbers. Granted these are "textbook" numbers and do not take into consideration ANY variables.

I...

A 220 lb hanger (including gear) would have to approach an support angle of 5 degrees to reach the ratings on these biners.

I figure my hang angle is never less than 20 degrees and that only puts...