Free Outdoor Stand Materials

**oldgringo** · 08-18-2009, 12:52

Just make multiple trips.

"Free" will be a fond and distant memory if you get into renting heavy stuff.

**Cannibal** · 08-18-2009, 12:53

Originally Posted by oldgringo

Take some friends. You won't believe how heavy those suckers are.

The poles get loaded on the trailer for me, but I have to unload. There is a nice big tree that I figure I can tie to and drive the trailer away to 'pull them off'. Then I figure between me and the 19 year old that lives to work-out, we can get them upright in the holes. Still, I remember moving RR ties for my mom's garden when I was younger; they really are crazy heavy!

**Cannibal** · 08-18-2009, 12:56

Originally Posted by oldgringo

Just make multiple trips.

"Free" will be a fond and distant memory if you get into renting heavy stuff.

Probably will do just that. I've got two expenses that I can think of right now:
1. Trailer rental
2. Post hole digger rental

I am SOOOO not planning to dig holes by hand. Been there, done that, got a gas tank now.

**Coffee** · 08-18-2009, 12:56

Next time I visit can I hang in the horse barn?

**oldgringo** · 08-18-2009, 12:59

Just to give you an idea, I can just barely handle an eight footer out of the top half of a pole by myself. By handle, I mean bearhug and drop it in a hole.. Anything out of the butt end would be undoable for one man.

**Cannibal** · 08-18-2009, 13:04

Originally Posted by Coffee

Next time I visit can I hang in the horse barn?

That's gonna be my workshop, so you'll have to move the thread injecting machine and piles of stuff. But, sure no problem!

Originally Posted by oldgringo

Just to give you an idea, I can just barely handle an eight footer out of the top half of a pole by myself. By handle, I mean bearhug and drop it in a hole.. Anything out of the butt end would be undoable for one man.

I figure on 'scooting' it close to the hole, then two of us lifting the top end and 'scooting' it closer until the bottom drops. Once we've got it in the hole (3 to 4' deep) it should be fairly easy to manipulate. Realistic?

**oldgringo** · 08-18-2009, 13:08

Sure, but get something to scoot it on, so you don't cave the hole in.

**Ramblinrev** · 08-18-2009, 13:16

Originally Posted by Cannibal

That's gonna be my workshop, so you'll have to move the thread injecting machine and piles of stuff. But, sure no problem!

I figure on 'scooting' it close to the hole, then two of us lifting the top end and 'scooting' it closer until the bottom drops. Once we've got it in the hole (3 to 4' deep) it should be fairly easy to manipulate. Realistic?

On the ground... no I don't think that is realistic. On a few roller bars... yeah... should be doable. The roller bars could be anything round roughly the same size. Just something to roll the logs instead of scooting. Have three or four and rotate them as the log moves. Remember if you pick up one end the other end is going to dig into the ground. A good solid pry bar will be needed. Better yet a peavy. Can't move logs without a peavie.

As far a multiple trips are concerned the biggest issue is the load weight for the tires and the trailer suspension. As long as you don't exceed those you should have no problem but it don't take much to exceed them.

**Ramblinrev** · 08-18-2009, 13:32

A point of reference... A cord of firewood (128 cubic feet) weighs well over a ton. So a 50' log with an average size of 1 cubic foot per linear foot is roughly 1/3 cord. Therefore you could expect it to weigh 1000# That's without the creoasote treatment wi is very heavy. Plus the cord of firewood is porous where as the log is solid. You could be talking 400-500# per length depending on the wood and the size.

**warbonnetguy** · 08-18-2009, 13:39

lots of national forests allow you to go out and cut standing beetle-kill pine for free too. this might be an option as you could get some more reasonable sized pieces.

you gonna invite me to the house warming party?