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    Well - maybe what you need to do depends a lot on where, or when, you go.

    I don't really feel like I have much of a choice in treating my gear & clothing.
    I have always been the one to get eaten alive with bugs, and there's plenty of them where I live, on the coast.
    Even if my shelter keeps the bugs from biting me, my shelter gets covered in bugs, flies, ticks, snails, spiders, you name it. All the noise is annoying, plus it just creates a big mess after a few days.

    Permethrin keeps them away, I get more sleep, no bug mess, and I might avoid a disease or secondary infection.

    Hey, it's just a personal choice, I can see both sides of the issue.
    I like to go solo - off trail - immerse myself in the area - explore - eat really well - and make it back home.

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    If you do choose a brand besides Sawyer try to get one that is NOT petroleum based. The non petroleum ones stink less.

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    I have found Picaridin to be a very effective alternative to DEET, won't harm fabric, and can be applied to skin. The chemical has been used world-wide to repel mosquitoes and ticks since the 1980s, but only approved in the US since 2005. Permethrin is certainly effective, but not meant for skin contact.

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    I have a double layer, so I'm not worried about getting bitten....but the NOISE mosquitos make at night!!! Would permethrin just kill them once touching the hammock? Or would it keep them away so I don't have to hear the buzzing?

    #hammockproblems lol

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    petroleum based.
    The petroleum based will leave a smell that takes about a week to dissipate. The smell is not bad or good but noticeable.

    Our vet stopped selling
    Permethrin based tick and flea meds for dogs some years back because cat owners were using it on their cats even after being told not too.
    I am still 18 but with 52 years of experience !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likeapuma View Post
    I have a double layer, so I'm not worried about getting bitten....but the NOISE mosquitos make at night!!! Would permethrin just kill them once touching the hammock? Or would it keep them away so I don't have to hear the buzzing?

    #hammockproblems lol
    One word... "Earplugs"...
    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”

    - Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRpilot View Post
    One word... "Earplugs"...
    I always bring them, but can't bring myself to use them... Hoping IF something were to come creeping through the night, I could hear it. Hearing coyotes yipping to each other is pretty awesome (& hair raising) as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    I'll bite! PUN

    DDT was "safe" when my dad was a kid.

    Permethrin is safe now.

    I think with a pad/UQ and mosquito net you can skip soaking a hammock in chemicals and eliminate any "oh I didn't know's" later on.
    Ageed

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    I have found a permethrin option from bonide it is meant to be a luggage treatment for bed bugs. Same concentration as sawyers less than half the cost. I got a gallon last fall when garden stuff was clearanced out for $12. I was skeptical about it the first year I used it and only treated one set of clothes so I could compare its effectiveness. From that day forward ALL my gear gets soaked twice a summer. I think it works, I know my buddy who will only use the "all natural" had a rough trip last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dammfast View Post
    I have found a permethrin option from bonide it is meant to be a luggage treatment for bed bugs. Same concentration as sawyers less than half the cost. I got a gallon last fall when garden stuff was clearanced out for $12. I was skeptical about it the first year I used it and only treated one set of clothes so I could compare its effectiveness. From that day forward ALL my gear gets soaked twice a summer. I think it works, I know my buddy who will only use the "all natural" had a rough trip last year.

    You got a link? I'm normally very anti chemical but the ticks and mosquitoes in my area have exploded. My dog got Lyme Disease and I can't be in my yard after sunset or I get eaten alive, so now I'm almost to the point of wanting DDT back again!

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