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    When I've had condensation in cold weather, it has not been much at all. I have placed a VB under the OCF pad before, without any problem.

    Realistically, I could not use my Thermadrape KAQ with the OCF pad unless I put the pad right under the hammock. For me, it works... so far!

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    Got the heatsheet and was laying the OCF over the heatsheet and thinking that I should cut it to size and attach it somehow to the OCF, at first I thought of cutting to fit and sewing it, which is probably the best answer, but I am not sure the plastic will sew very well and would probably tear and not shift underneath you as you move around.

    How do you fix your heatsheet to the OCF, or do you? AND are you cutting it to fit the OCF?

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    I don't attach it. Mostly because an attaching point is not moveable and a further source of strain and possible tears. I also do not plan on cutting it unless my reasoning turns out to be faulty. The heat sheet is a vapor barrier against condensation, not a protectoer of the ocf. So the whole of the bottom cover would seem to need a vapor barrier, not just the foam. If I cut the heat sheet to fit the foam I leave the rest of the undercover exposed to possible condensation with will sink down to the bottom of the undercover and soak the foam anyway. I figure I am better off trying to cover the majority of the undercover. BTW I think the heat sheet goes over the pad between the pad and the hammock, not under the pad between the undercover and the pad.

    Obviously there will be some exposed parts like on the other side of the slit where the heat sheet needs ot move to let me in. But that's my reasoning.
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    I recceived my SS this afternoon and installed it to my Explorer UL with the snakeskins and tarp together, minus the OCF. I noticed on one of the videos on YouTube that the OCF was packed really tight into the SS stuff sack as shipped. The person setting up the hammock commented that he doubted anyone could get it back into the same sack, which concerned me. I don't like wasting gear or having to buy additional items to make use of new gear. I couldn't get it back in the bag either, so I put it in the hammock stuff sack and put the coiled HH/SS in the SS bag:









    May not be for everyone, but an idea I am trying.

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    What's a bishop's bag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroutEhCuss View Post
    What's a bishop's bag?
    A normal stuff sack, with a very small opening on the 'bottom' end that is only large enough to accommodate suspension cording. It is used by leaving it in place when deployed, which makes it easy to always distinguish the head/foot by the placement of the bag itself.

    Lots of people confuse Bishop Bag's with a double ended stuff sack, but those are functionally different and IMO largely more aggravating.
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    Is it possible to roll the SS up in the snakeskin with the HH? I'd like to bring the HH with me on my thru hike but I'm starring in Feb and would like to get a SS. I'm confused at how affective it would be and what other precautions I'd need to take.

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    I think I posted this once before but. I duct taped mine around the ocf. I just wrapped it all the way around and taped. I reinforced the areas where the cords for the oxf came from the sides.I wrap it all together and put back in the stock bag. Just gotta roll tightly.
    It fits vertically in my pack. My pack has the membrane that seperatea the sleeping bag compartment and. The main. It slides all the way to the bottom so it takes up very little space in the main area. I out the snake skins with the as and hmmock in its bf in main area. The hex tarp is the last thing packed and goes in outside compartment. That was a big reason I chose the pack I did for the outside tarp storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsodist View Post
    Is it possible to roll the SS up in the snakeskin with the HH? I'd like to bring the HH with me on my thru hike but I'm starring in Feb and would like to get a SS. I'm confused at how affective it would be and what other precautions I'd need to take.
    I don't think that is practical(the pad in the SS). Seems like I remember some one(HH?) said it would put undu stress on the fragile pad and might damage it, mainly when the skins are rolled/wrapped up.

    If you are going in Feb, be sure to get in some really cold night practice runs before you hit the trail. Practice runs so that if it won't work for you, you can bail out safely.

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