i feel like this is a problem with my new tarp... can I get some help?

[humer91]

Paul and Missy own both dream hammock as well as UGQ right? I have had some recent things worked on ontoy dream hammock shipped it to them they fixed it and even sent it back with some new woopie slings! (Mine were old and fraying haven't had the extra $ to replace them yet) if both of these company's are ran buy the same people then I have no doubt that my tarp will be fixed up!

Randy and Deanna (The Smurfs) own DreamHammock, Paul and Missy own UGQ. Paul is the crazy one who drove through a winter storm from Michigan to Texas for our fall hang....on a motorcycle...that is dedication!

[Armor Like Fire]

Randy and Deanna (The Smurfs) own DreamHammock, Paul and Missy own UGQ. Paul is the crazy one who drove through a winter storm from Michigan to Texas for our fall hang....on a motorcycle...that is dedication!

Okay so that would explain the different web sites, so are they working together though since like UGQ makes things to work for the dream hammock and whatnot?
I still haven't been to any hammock forum hangs I should start adltending they seem fun

[Armor Like Fire]

They got back with slme said they didn't really feel the need t9 fix it because that's just normal from what they exsperence 0_0

[LuvmyBonnet]

Hmmm. Bare minimum I think I would slather those areas heavy with seem sealer. Those gaps would concern me as well.

[sr1355]

Here is our exact email in reference to this subject, upon looking at the OP picture the tarp does appear to be under high tension.

Hi XXXX,

First we certainly appreciate your concern with the stitch elongation and do not want to minimize the issue. We have used this detail for the past three years with absolutely no reported tarp failures. The stitch elongation is a normal result of the stress introduced by the pull out during normal operation of the tarp. These stitches only function is to hold the reinforcement fabric in place. The reinforcement panels only job is to prevent the guy out stitching from pulling through the nylon fabric. As a result of the forces being transferred from the guy out, to the reinforcement fabric, to the nylon tarp, the nylon tarp stretches just a bit under load resulting in these holding stitches "opening".

All of our personal tarps have seen this exact result, with some of the tarps seeing two years of heavy service with no failure. We'd be happy to send a pre paid label if you'd like to return the tarp for inspection.

We have recently changed our guy out detail but this was due to seeking lower entry weights and not as a result of any tarp failures or design flaws.

Also, there was not an older email attached for reference so we are replying to the information as we have it....

Paul & Missy
phone: 517-610-0966
web: www.undergroundquilts.com
facebook: UGQ FaceBook

One point of correct would be the only time we have experienced this is with the tarps ratcheted down tight and we usually backed off the amount of tension at that point. The top stitching appears to be intact leading me to believe this is more a result of the tarp fabric being stretch tight applying stress in the the stitch work. Since the side stitching is the weakest link it is showing some elongation in the stitching. The fabric between the reinforcement and actual guy webbing is sandwiched pretty tight.

I have made the offer to send a PRE-PAID shipping label. In regards to a larger panel reinforcement the only purpose of the reinforcement panel is to prevent to actual stitching for the guy out webbing from ripping through the nylon under high loads. Adding a larger panel in our opinion would not eliminate this but just relocate it to a different location higher up on the tarp.

Offer still stands on sending a PRE-PAID label to return the tarp for inspection.