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    Fixed UQ

    I have a hammock I made of 1.6 oz rip stop, I am considering making an UQ that is attached to the hammock on an angle and uses the hammock material as the top of the UQ. Using 850 down, argon for the bottom layer and no-see-um for the baffle it look like I could make it for about $139, should add about 14.9 oz to the hammock with a loft of 2.5-3 inches. Has anyone tried this before?

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    Personally, I have reservations about insulated hammocks, but there is a niche for them in the hammock world. A couple of vendors make insulated hammocks:

    http://www.sheltoweehammockcompany.com/

    http://bonefiregear.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr View Post
    Personally, I have reservations about insulated hammocks, but there is a niche for them in the hammock world. A couple of vendors make insulated hammocks:

    http://www.sheltoweehammockcompany.com/

    http://bonefiregear.com/
    My hammock with suspension and sack weighs 17 oz, with the UQ it would weigh 21 oz, the Sheltowee weighs 57 oz....cost isn't bad though.

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    What temperature rating are you attempting to get down to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireInMyBones View Post
    What temperature rating are you attempting to get down to?
    20*...would probably use 3" baffles so it might go a little lower.

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    Current hammock/UCR suspension/tree straps/bag = 17 oz
    12 oz down = 12 oz
    Argon 67 - 2.71 yds = 1.1 oz
    No-see-um baffles - 1.08 yds = 1.08 oz
    Total weight = 31.18 oz ....or there abouts

    I keep asking myself why people aren't already doing this, thinking I'm missing something, but I haven't found it yet, looks like a practical approach if you're after lightweight gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drybones View Post
    Current hammock/UCR suspension/tree straps/bag = 17 oz
    12 oz down = 12 oz
    Argon 67 - 2.71 yds = 1.1 oz
    No-see-um baffles - 1.08 yds = 1.08 oz
    Total weight = 31.18 oz ....or there abouts

    I keep asking myself why people aren't already doing this, thinking I'm missing something, but I haven't found it yet, looks like a practical approach if you're after lightweight gear.
    I will tell you that, at least in my testing (over the last three years), that a single layer insulated hammock is likely to fail. If you are very careful with your gear, you might be able to get away with it, but long term durability is greatly reduced. Longevity is the reason I switched to a DL.
    3" baffles? I use half of that and I get down to 30F easy. The "Lofty Monster" I made for Free Home had 3" baffles and he hasn't been able to find weather cold enough to call it the lower limit. The last I've heard was that he took it into the single digits.
    For the shape that I use, 11oz of down and 1.5" baffles is a solid 30F. If you go with a 3/4 length style and 2" baffles, you could likely use 12oz to get where you want.
    My hammocks weigh right at 2# with the bug net and continuous loops. Your weight estimate is not far off.

    I absolutely encourage you to attempt this project. If I can help in any way, let me know. As SilvrSurfr points out, not everyone is sold on the idea. Biggest reasons that I've heard are the ability to clean the hammock (very doable, but more intensive), a lack of modularity, and that you can not vent the UQ (which I never did but rather vent my TQ). I am sure there are other thoughts and good reasons, but these are the top questions I've faced.
    Best of luck, Drybones.
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    I believe I'll put this project off until I learn more about hammocks, I'm new to it, had to give the ground up because the back suffers from O.L.D. Thanks to all for the input, now I'll start another thread and ask for help deciding what insulation to get. Thanks again.

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