No, I was doing a single turn. I didn't pay much attention when I was tying it since I had done it so many times before, but I think I must have done a step wrong or something.
No, I was doing a single turn. I didn't pay much attention when I was tying it since I had done it so many times before, but I think I must have done a step wrong or something.
Could have done everything right and the original way of tying with a single turn just isn't enough to prevent a capsize under tension for 6-8hrs.
If i had a speed hook I think I'd experiment with hitches which tie back onto the standing part of the line. Farrimond friction hitch seems to be working for others for some applications. I'd be nervous to tie it around a CL of 7/64 but hardware... no worries.
Just a bit of trivia: a double-slippery reef knot is the shoelace knot.Originally Posted by Theguywitheyebrows
I think of it as one of those things that there is no good answer to. I tend to usually think of a hitch attaching to something rigid as well but, as I said, I think there are some grey areas. And it really doesn't matter except when you're trying to group or classify things. This is as bad as avian taxonomy!
And THAT of course reminds me of the following -
There are two kinds of people: those that try to put things into categories and those who don't.
I'm going to drop this and want to get back to the ongoing quest to solve the problem. I see this thread getting to 50 pages and beyond. I'm looking forward to learning and enjoying every moment/post.
Last edited by TominMN; 10-07-2015 at 06:00.
I never thought of this until now.
FWIW a table in Ashley's book of knots claimed a reef knot was less secure than a sheet bend. This might not be enough to throw it out as a possibility a toggle inserted might make it a much more secure option and a backup slippery half hitch like we've been doing with the toggled bite might help even more.
In general the list progressed from knots like a square knot reef knot etc toward the bottom, sheet bend types were about middle and the most secure we're things like the blood knot.
My new YouTube video out in "two weeks" might show lead going through larks head at end of continuous loop before tie two wrap Siberian. SSG y'all covered a lot of ground. That was Grand.
Maybe we're overthinking this. What about using a knot we're already familiar with, the marlin spike hitch. Rather than tying a knot between the line and continuous loop on the hammock, what about tying a MSH on the amsteel or dynaglide line and slipping the continuous loop over that? It's an easy knot, most hammockers are already familiar with it, and it unties easily. I just thought of it, but haven't tried it yet - I don't have anywhere to hang in my apartment. Does anyone know if it'll hold on amsteel or dynaglide?
I think it will hold, and I usually tie MSH with one extra wrap just in case the AmSteel was thinking about slipping. And possibly use the extra line, folded neatly as a toggle. I can't remember who thought that idea first. There are lots of good ideas here. And some of them will be put to good use. Good idea micaudill. And I was thinking, put a larks head with end of continuous loop. Run lead through larks head then tie SOB or MSH. This will keep loop from falling off of MSH and if using SOB it "might" keep SOB from capsizing(slipping past CL up towards tree onto single lead. Are you going to try your idea? I wish I had thought of that.
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