KAQ Insulation Weight

**BrianWillan** · 10-21-2009, 11:07

Greetings

What is the insulation weight that is used in the KAQs? I am looking at other synthetic insulation options and want to have a basis for valid comparison.

Thanks

Brian

**pgibson** · 10-21-2009, 17:58

Brian sorry to take so long to get back to you. Been slammed with orders today. Lot of gear on its way out!

the Climashield that I received from John is mostly all the 5 oz XP. but I think there is a little bit of the Climashield Green in the pile as well (might be mistaken though.)

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Paul

**BrianWillan** · 10-21-2009, 21:41

Originally Posted by pgibson

Brian sorry to take so long to get back to you. Been slammed with orders today. Lot of gear on its way out!

the Climashield that I received from John is mostly all the 5 oz XP. but I think there is a little bit of the Climashield Green in the pile as well (might be mistaken though.)

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Paul

Wow, customer service at its best. Apologizing for taking 7 hours (a few minutes less) to post a response to a forum question. It's great to hear that you are busy with your new business venture.

One more question. Are the KAQs with the 5oz Climashield XP (I assume 1 layer per quilt) considered a 3 season quilt? I know temp ratings are subjective and also dependent on the top quilt and other insulating clothing worn by the user. That being said what is the temp rating for the KAQs with the 5oz XP insulation?

Thanks

**pgibson** · 10-21-2009, 21:49

Well based off of the details John gave me on his experiences with the KAQ line either quilt should get most users into the 30's. But you are right people and conditions vary so...YMMV. I have not had the chance yet to get out and test one, but hope to be able to soon.

Paul

**bigbamaguy** · 10-21-2009, 22:25

BW:
I have one of MrPrez's last run of KAQ's and I have been down to lower 40's in mine. I used a small fleece blanket as a top cover. There was about a 5 mph wind most of the night and 85% humidity. I was wearing cotton socks, ss cotton t-shirt and sweatpant shorts to sleep in. I was also in a Clark NX-200, and was comfortable through the night.

I hope this helps............

**lenle01** · 10-22-2009, 00:15

Brian- My KAQ 5 oz goes down to 30* comfortably. With my add on layer of 2.5 oz climashield 20 degrees. 20 mph and raining. Lt weight long johns top and bottom, wool hiking socks and a knit hat. -lee

**MacEntyre** · 10-22-2009, 06:35

I used mine down to 16*F with a vapor barrier between it and the hammock. You could add more to it than that. It works especially well to extend the HH SS.

It may be the easiest 3 season UQ to extend into the 4th season!

- MacEntyre

**BOB1520** · 10-22-2009, 07:59

Originally Posted by MacEntyre

I used mine down to 16*F with a vapor barrier between it and the hammock. You could add more to it than that. It works especially well to extend the HH SS.

It may be the easiest 3 season UQ to extend into the 4th season!

- MacEntyre

Mac,
How would you setup the SS and the KAQ? I.e. would the KAQ be the outer layer or would it go between the hammock and the SS under cover.
When setting up this configureation would you still use the OCF pad that is part of the SS?

**MacEntyre** · 10-22-2009, 09:21

Originally Posted by BOB1520

How would you setup the SS and the KAQ? I.e. would the KAQ be the outer layer or would it go between the hammock and the SS under cover.

I have done it both ways. The easiest way is to rig the SS, then add the KAQ below it.

If you put the KAQ inside the SS UC, it helps if you have cut the elastic of the BEEP, like you would if you converted to a top loading HH via a 2Q/ZQ Bugnet Mod. You have to fuss with the UC suspension to eliminate any compression of the KAQ by the UC. I would not do it this way unless you needed the UC as a splash guard in heavy, cold rain.

At the time I was using both the SS and the KAQ, I kept the SS with the hammock in a Bishop Bag, and stored the KAQ separately.

Originally Posted by BOB1520

When setting up this configureation would you still use the OCF pad that is part of the SS?

Yes. The OCF pad, because it is tightly fitted, should be the first thing underneath the hammock. Everything but the hammock goes under it.

**BOB1520** · 10-22-2009, 09:31

Originally Posted by MacEntyre

I have done it both ways. The easiest way is to rig the SS, then add the KAQ below it.

If you put the KAQ inside the SS UC, it helps if you have cut the elastic of the BEEP, like you would if you converted to a top loading HH via a 2Q/ZQ Bugnet Mod. You have to fuss with the UC suspension to eliminate any compression of the KAQ by the UC. I would not do it this way unless you needed the UC as a splash guard in heavy, cold rain.

At the time I was using both the SS and the KAQ, I kept the SS with the hammock in a Bishop Bag, and stored the KAQ separately.

Yes. The OCF pad, because it is tightly fitted, should be the first thing underneath the hammock. Everything but the hammock goes under it.

THANKS !

I recently bought a KAQ from another HF member in my area and I haven't tried it out yet. But it's nice to know that I have several configuration options.