New products at Trail Days...?

**NCPatrick** · 05-20-2007, 19:28

Hmmm... waiting, waiting waiting for news about the new products released at Trail Days. I wonder who will be reporting back with what they've seen and how it all went.

Anyone?

...Buehler...?

...Buehler...?

**slowhike** · 05-20-2007, 20:34

it was a great week end. i couldn't believe we didn't get any rain.
the only negative for me was that i misplaced my camera sat morn & didn't find it until i got home. it was in a deep out side pack pocket under rain gear were i'm sure i looked 3 or 4 times

but thank the Lord, i found it

i'm pretty sure some of the others took pictures of the new speer under quilt & the new JRB hammock.
if not... well... you may just have to come to hot springs in june...
just kidding. i'm sure they got pictures.

the speer "snug fit" under quilt is great. the only regret ed has is that it's so labor intensive to make (it coutures the hammock), he had to price it higher than expected. but it's a fool proof, no hassle, & very effective under quilt.

the jacks are still fine tuning the new hammock. it really does allow you to lay flat. my only concern was that there's still a little more shoulder squeeze than i would like. but it's still a work in progress at this time & i believe they may try a wider spread which would help that concern, but i'll let them talk about that.
it's a great idea & i hope can get it just the way they want it. if so, i believe it'll go places.
i hate i didn't get to see the other hammockers more, but i did see get to see some people i had already met & some others that i met for the first time.
i even met attroll! hey,he's not a troll... he's a nice guy

**Just Jeff** · 05-20-2007, 22:01

Just got back into DC...spent Friday night and Saturday at TD, then had to head home Saturday night to take care of some stuff. But I got to meet Rock and Dixie, Ewker, Troll, Lone Wolf, Pentacost, and several other folks, and I got to see lots of other folks again, like Doctari, Hammock Engineer, FD and husband, etc. I even saw Michele in the hiker parade!

New Products:

- The new Warbonnet hammocks are very cool. Pretty close to a Hennessy, and Tom went over to talk to him about the patent...curious to see how that turns out. It's a pretty close knockoff, but without a ridgeline, with a side-entry zipper, and a slightly different asym shape. I really liked how he did the pocket, too - you can reach through from the inside but can't get at it from the outside, and it doubles as a stuff sack. I really liked the design. He also has a cat cut tarp...looks very similar to Brian's, but he says he came to that design before he saw the MacCat.
- Same kid had synthetic underquilts made from silnylon. He has a 15" zipper in there so you can flip it inside out to dry in case water gets in side.
- He also has a half-length underquilt. Great idea, since some folks already carry sit pads or torso pads for backpack frames, so why carry the extra weight of a full underquilt? Great idea, and he hasn't had any problems with condensation using the sil.
- His website should be up in two weeks.

- The Speer underquilt is AWESOME!! Great fit, easy installation, lots of loft. Wish I didn't already have so much stuff or I'd be tempted to buy one!! Pricey pricey, though.
- Speer also has little strips of felt with his name printed on there. Comes with a safety pin...wrap it around the strap and pin it on - no more drip problems. And good advertisement.

- The JRB hammock is easily the flattest hammock I've ever laid in. I could sleep fully extended on my side, and laid for a while on my belly - very comfortable. I also felt the shoulder squeeze when I laid on my back, though...maybe if it were a bit wider that would go away. And it's still a bit heavy at ~2 lbs, but a lighter fabric would reduce that a bit.

- Also bought two pair of Sport Eyz from Gossamer Gear - sunglasses that roll up to fit into a cannister just shorter and wider than a film cannister. At $10 each, and very comfortable, it's much better than bringing my expensive sunglasses along and stuffing them into my pack.

- Seeing all the packs from Gossamer Gear and MLD really tested my discipline...almost dropped a hundred bucks more than once that day! Didn't see anything that wasn't already on their website, though.

And Friday night, I asked a cop about getting a permit for parking. He said, "The parking ticket is the same price as the permit. You could take your chances if you want..." Haha...pretty laid back. I did get the $15 ticket, though.

No pics b/c I didn't have a camera with me.

**ShakeyLeggs** · 05-20-2007, 22:24

I'm really interested in learning more about the JrB Hammock. I hope they can get the weight down though as as Jeff said 2#, is about the same weight as my HHULBA with it's stock tarp. I hope they get it up on their site pretty quick. I like the fact that both reports here say that it lays flat which suits me fine as I am a belly sleeper. But don't get me wrong I LOVE my Hennessy

**Hooch** · 05-21-2007, 02:16

Originally Posted by Just Jeff

The Speer underquilt is AWESOME!!

I told you this weeks ago, people. Is no one listening to me at all? ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo.......

**slowhike** · 05-21-2007, 06:08

yeah jeff, i got a pair of those GG sunglasses too. pretty cool. and i was really tempted to come home w/ one of there packs as well... but i didn't.

the jacks will be using a lighter fabric on the new hammock, so that should help the weight some.

<hennessy/patent discussion moved to hammock patent thread. - jeff>

...tim

**lvleph** · 05-21-2007, 06:23

Originally Posted by Just Jeff

- Also bought two pair of Sport Eyz from Gossamer Gear - sunglasses that roll up to fit into a cannister just shorter and wider than a film cannister. At $10 each, and very comfortable, it's much better than bringing my expensive sunglasses along and stuffing them into my pack.

Those sport eyes crack pretty easily, but they are cheap and light.

**Just Jeff** · 05-21-2007, 08:45

Originally Posted by lvleph

Those sport eyes crack pretty easily, but they are cheap and light.

That's why I got 2 pair...I don't expect them to last forever, but at $10 I'll be happy if I get a handful of trips out of each pair. They're pretty comfortable, too.

**lvleph** · 05-21-2007, 10:26

Originally Posted by Just Jeff

That's why I got 2 pair...I don't expect them to last forever, but at $10 I'll be happy if I get a handful of trips out of each pair. They're pretty comfortable, too.

I actually opened a pair after they sat in my bag for a year and they were already cracked. Oh well.

**angrysparrow** · 05-22-2007, 07:55

Is it a fact that nobody got pictures of any of the new hammocks at TD? There are several of us that couldn't make it to TD that have been really hoping to get a glimpse of some of the new products, but I haven't seen any so far (except the sunglasses above). I find it hard to believe that nobody took a camera.