I have used the Exped9 dlx in my ENO double and it worked great,,, But, it is more weight. the 9dlx is 3lbs, the Yeti is 12oz...
I have used the Exped9 dlx in my ENO double and it worked great,,, But, it is more weight. the 9dlx is 3lbs, the Yeti is 12oz...
I've played around with one of the original Exped DownMat 9 DLX's and discovered something I didn't like (now this is ground sleeping mind you)...it took forever for it to warm up; in fact too long for me to lay on it without feeling very uncomfortable temperature wise...the next time I used a 1/4 inch ccf and that made a huge difference. This rig was for winter paddle camping-no way I'd ever even consider carrying this on my back knowing that a 3/4inch ccf would go the same temps. Mine is the old style where the stuff sack is also the pump.
For hammocking I agree that a yeti is probably warmer and instantly warm; far lighter and less bulk.
I got a 9 Down Deluxe at a great price used and planned to use it for car camping because it's heavy. I used it for one season backpacking in winter because I didn't have cold weather underquilts. It was good until I saved up for much lighter underquilts. I agree with MedicineMan they take a long time to warm up, but I'd take a hot water bottle and put it under my quilt about 20 minutes before I wanted to call it a night and that helped.
Things I liked about it: BETTER THAN NOT GOING. Don't have to worry about getting it wet if you have small tarp. Not affected by heavy fog. If I wanted to go to ground in winter I could. (Never happened. )
Things I didn't like about it: HEAVY. Had to warm it up. I thought it would take me down into 20's but I had cold butt syndrome at those temps. Others have taken it lower with no problems. As heavy as it is, you still had to block the sides from wind when winter camping.
Things that surprised me about it: Mine is not that hard to pump up. Quite comfortable. You are higher in your hammock but that didn't bother me. I didn't feel tippy like others have mentioned.
I'm keeping mine for car camping. Love it when I have to go to ground with sig. other.
Last edited by HappyCamper; 11-03-2009 at 06:16.
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I've got 3, the plain ol air mat, the DAM 7 Short & the DAM 9 reg. I got them when I was still a tent camper. So when I switched to my Clark and not having any idea what an under quilt was, I tried all 3 of the Exped mats out on different camping trips and at different temps. These only my observations:
The "just air" mat didn't do anything for insulation!!
The 7 short, I used my backpack at my feet. Worked fine for insulation but I could NOT keep the mat under me!! I roll and turn a lot so I'd roll and the mat would scoot the other way. Very big hassel through the night to stay on it.
The 9 reg, worked fantasticly. Temps went below freezing (about 27ish). All of me stayed on the mat even with my rolling about. Only problem was around my upper/to side shoulders. They got chilly during the night and I had to hunt up some extra clothing to pad the sides around me in my hammock.
Both of my DAM's are the type where the stuff sack is used to blow up the DAM. I found it a pain to blow up the 9 reg while using my hammock, the 7 short was easier. I've carried the 7 short backpacking but never the 9 reg, to much weight!! Found I had to experiment with the amount of air put into the DAM for it to be comfortable in my hammock.
I haven't carried any of my Exped mats since making my under quilts
I have two 7 shorts. My son & I use them with a BA Yampa & Cross Mountain. We camp with the scouts. I'm hanging and my son is usually on the ground.
The short is perfect for him as it acts like a full for him.
I like the BA/DAM combo because I don't have to worry about sliding off of my pad. I have had CFS (cold feet sydrome) the past few outings, so I'll try an additional windshield pad in the foot section next time.
I've had two issues thus far.
1) A valve on one of the pads broke. It would still seal, but when you opened it, the cap & spring would come off. I was able to super glue it and have not had any more problems with it.
2) The other pad developed a leak. I was able to locate the hole by placing the pad in the tub. Repaired with the supplied patch kit. Patch is holding well and does not show any signs of peeling.
The only other gripe is that my stuff/pump sacks won't hold air long enough to use as a pillow. Probably a small leak or seam that needs to be sealed.
To Boldly Hang Where No One Has Hung Before...
I put one of the air pillows that you blow up w/ a straw inside the Exped stuff sack & use it between/beneath my knees.
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Thank you all, great info
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