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    Speer Cat vs Black Cat

    Okay, I've put it off long enough. I need to get my new tarp built. Seeing Speers new tarp has got me interested in making one. Is there any advantage to making a Speer Cat vs a Black Cat?

    I imagine the Black Cat would be lighter, where as the Speer would be easier to make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funbun View Post
    Okay, I've put it off long enough. I need to get my new tarp built. Seeing Speers new tarp has got me interested in making one. Is there any advantage to making a Speer Cat vs a Black Cat?

    I imagine the Black Cat would be lighter, where as the Speer would be easier to make?
    Dunno, but I'd love to see the Speer Cat Cut tarp, I've not seen a photo yet and it's killing me....killing me I tell ya!
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    It's the second picture: Speer Cat

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    I don't think the speer would really be easier to make. The thing that really makes the BlackCat hard to make is the cat cut.

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    a lot of it would come down to personal preference, but one thing to note is that the middle tie out on the speer would allow someone to bring the ends into the middle (crossing the guy lines) & close the end for wind rain protection.
    i'll see if i can find a picture of dave's (youngblood) tarp from the last hot springs camp out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    the middle tie out on the speer would allow someone to bring the ends into the middle (crossing the guy lines) & close the end for wind rain protection.
    i'll see if i can find a picture of dave's (youngblood) tarp from the last hot springs camp out.
    I saw Youngblood do that in Hot Springs and it seemed to work out well for him. It's one of those "Duh-I-should-have-thought-of-that" ideas.
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    Was Youngblood using one of the Speer Cat cut tarps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by headchange4u View Post
    Was Youngblood using one of the Speer Cat cut tarps?
    HC, I'm thinking he was using a regular Speer-type tarp. That's what it looks like in your pics and mine.
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    Looks like you'll have to carry 6 stakes for the Speer Tarp vs. 4 stakes for the McCat or the BlackCat.
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    I think like slowhike said, the advantage of the Speer is closing the ends. It also has more useable room on the ends. To me the disadvantage is 2 more tieouts.

    I like the deeper Cat cut. Seeing the Warbonnet tarps, I think my next one is going to have a little deeper cat cut on the bottom, a small cat cut on the ridge line, and not be a true hex shape. I want to make the sides longer than the ends. That will make more usable room on the ends.
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