layin flat in the bb dl 1.1

[Hanson]

What you left out is that mosquitoes can bite through a single layer of ripstop, but not two.

That's the kind of info I'm looking for! Thanks...

Anything else?

[warbonnetguy]

i believe the single 1.1 and double 1.1 are mosquito proof. the 1.7 is not, i've heard of them biting through the double 1.7 before.

the tradeoff, is that the 1.7 fabric is alot more breathable. of course if you're using any bottom insulation at all, then they're not going to be able to bite through the bottom no matter which one you get.

folks have had great success treating the hammock and other items with premethrin as well.

[Hanson]

i believe the single 1.1 and double 1.1 are mosquito proof. the 1.7 is not, i've heard of them biting through the double 1.7 before.

the tradeoff, is that the 1.7 fabric is alot more breathable. of course if you're using any bottom insulation at all, then they're not going to be able to bite through the bottom no matter which one you get.

folks have had great success treating the hammock and other items with premethrin as well.

There's another consideration. Warbonnetguy - you should summarize these points on your website so I know which one to buy...otherwise, I might have to buy one of each! Also, can you explain the diff between line strap and adjustable webbing? Maybe that's explained somewhere on your site, but I couldn't find it.

[angrysparrow]

Also, can you explain the diff between line strap and adjustable webbing? Maybe that's explained somewhere on your site, but I couldn't find it.

That is explained well in the videos there.

[east_stingray]

i believe the single 1.1 and double 1.1 are mosquito proof. the 1.7 is not, i've heard of them biting through the double 1.7 before.

the tradeoff, is that the 1.7 fabric is alot more breathable. of course if you're using any bottom insulation at all, then they're not going to be able to bite through the bottom no matter which one you get.

folks have had great success treating the hammock and other items with premethrin as well.

So... ignore what I said and pay attention to Brandon. I had no idea they could bite through the DOUBLE layer 1.7 but not the single 1.1. Good stuff to know.

[Grillmastertoo]

i guess i have had a misconception of the varying layers---
i was thinking that a 1.7 double layer would hold more weight than a double 1.1 layer---thus the material must be stronger and/or more dense which would mean the pesky needlenose bugs would nto be able to poke through....

Have I had it wrong this whole time?

[sulman]

i guess i have had a misconception of the varying layers---
i was thinking that a 1.7 double layer would hold more weight than a double 1.1 layer---thus the material must be stronger and/or more dense which would mean the pesky needlenose bugs would nto be able to poke through....

Have I had it wrong this whole time?

Perhaps the 1.1 ripstop is a finer weave?

[BillyBob58]

Perhaps the 1.1 ripstop is a finer weave?

Apparently so. When HH came out with the ULBPs, the story was that these were at least way more mossy proof than there heavier hammocks. Which seemed opposite how it should be, but there you go. This would go well with what Brandon said about the 1.7 being more breathable, therefore I guess more "open".

[SmokeHouse]

So here's a (kind of) related question...if I'm 150#, it seems that the single 1.1 or 1.7 would be fine, but do some people buy the double layer hammock in order to put a pad in between the layers? Or do people only buy the double to handle a heavier load?

I bought the double mainly for a pad if I decide to use one.

[warbonnetguy]

a mosquito stinger is way longer than fabric is thick, so the thickness has nothing to do with it. it's the thread count(tighter weave), and generally the lighter fabrics have a higher thread count. 1.1 is often calendared as well so that may have an effect also