Ok so time for a Newbie groundling question: What is better, a hammock with an under quilt and a sleeping bag, Or an under quilt and a over quilt, Or a pad and sleeping bag? Please answer for both extreme seasons: summer and winter please.
Ok so time for a Newbie groundling question: What is better, a hammock with an under quilt and a sleeping bag, Or an under quilt and a over quilt, Or a pad and sleeping bag? Please answer for both extreme seasons: summer and winter please.
Brian D. Samosky
It's a kilt!! If it were a skirt, I'd be wearin somthin under it!!
For certain, you have to be lost to find a place as can't be found. Elseways, everyone would know where it was.
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
– John 3:16.
better for what? money? weight? comfort? ease of finding suitable gear?Originally Posted by Scottish Pirate
and every answer changes for summer vs winter
You thought this stopped at finding a hammock? Nope!
Thanks for playing!
short answer
IMO, pad<UQ and sleeping bag<TQ
-any UQ is more comfortable and less bulky than a pad but slightly more weight and $$
-sleeping bag OK, just heavier that typical TQ
-replacing your current sleeping bag for a TQ is going to cost $$
-best is TQ + UQ for weight, bulk but worst for $$
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Though I don't have an underquilt, I think most who do own one use an underquilt for everything above 70* or so, and change the top layer of insulation. If it's hot and you have an underquilt underneath, you may only need a small throw blanket or some extra clothes thrown on top of you to keep you warm.
When it gets very cold, the UQ + Pad will be warmer than either of them alone. That is my take on what I've been reading, and hopefully I will have some of the more experienced hammockers agree with me.
top quilt + underquilt = breathable, comfortable, good for me from 20F - 60F and above (plenty of ability to ventilate as needed)
sleeping bag + UQ/pad - jeez, how do I pack the $%^&#& bag? I used a quilt on the ground. Too much bulk with a bag.
Top quilt + pad - okay down to 32F or so... need another pad for lower. More comfortable than the ground, less comfy than the underquilt. Bulky unless the pad is the NeoAir.
Actually I figured finding a hammock was the first step then deciding all the little things to make it fit you is the fun part. as to the question better:
Better for comfort, I don't mind carrying a little extra weight for come comfort. I currently own a -10 sleeping bag that has never failed me before, but I just wanted to know when I start hanging, more in the fall and winter, what is better a UQ or the pad both, etc...
Brian D. Samosky
It's a kilt!! If it were a skirt, I'd be wearin somthin under it!!
For certain, you have to be lost to find a place as can't be found. Elseways, everyone would know where it was.
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
– John 3:16.
You'll never pry my under quilt and top quilt away from me. I used a quilt when ground dwelling, and it only gets better in a hammock. I have a 3 season set and a dead of winter set.
I ♥ my Warbonnet
OK, specifics
under insulation
-I use a down 2/3 UQ (I have 2, one 3 season (32* and up), one winter Yeti (32*-0*) + a ccf pad for under my legs (various lengths and thicknesses depending on season)
In hot summer, no pad necessary, fall/spring the pad can insulate my legs and an additional pad can be used to supplement the UQ if I'm pushing the limit. Below 0*, winter UQ plus full length pads (theory...not tested)
top insulation
- three weights of TQ (all DIY)
1.ultralight, 50*and up (36x51) 2.5 oz climashield
2. midweight 32*-50* (45x63) 3.7 oz climashield
3. heavyweight 0*-32* (49x76x3.75 thick) down
All can be supplemented with clothes and/or a down jacket, hood, and Buff.
These options work best for me (so far)
"Every day is a new day to a better future"
"Of all the things that matter, that really and truly matter, working more efficiently and getting more done is not among them." ~ Mike Dooley
"What if I told you that you couldn't have anymore of anything... No more friends, no more money, no more anything, until you first got happy with what you have?"~ Mike Dooley
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." ~ Socrates
So you just sleep a UQ and with clothes and a blanket (Over Quilt) then right?
Brian D. Samosky
It's a kilt!! If it were a skirt, I'd be wearin somthin under it!!
For certain, you have to be lost to find a place as can't be found. Elseways, everyone would know where it was.
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
– John 3:16.
I'm glad you're converting - sorry I didn't really get to talk to you this weekend. Be sure to cover your noggin too. I have trouble staying comfortable below 50 no matter what my insulation unless I'm wearing a hat.
.. truly to enjoy bodily warmth, some small part of you must be cold, for there is no quality in this world that is not what it is merely by contrast. Nothing exists in itself. If you flatter yourself that you are all over comfortable, and have been so a long time, then you cannot be said to be comfortable any more. - Herman Melville
Man i just got my underquilt and top quilt in yesterday. its like night and day from a therm a rest and a sleeping bag. although i must say, my old sleeping bag was a mummy and u borrowed quoddys underquilt on my last hike and somehow i woke up with the sleeping bag hood on and i was sleeping my side, coincidentally the side that the zipper is on so it felt like a really comfortable hooded quilt.
but definitely have to go with the underquilt and top quilt. good investment to make especially when you compare the size and weight of this stuff to a synthetic sleeping bag like my old cats meow. my new under and overquilt stuff to less than the size of my old sleeping bag and thats not to include how big my old therm a rest used to roll up to...
you have to make the switch man... its worth it
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