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    How to install Whoopie Slings on a HH

    Hey everyone looking for some info on installing Whoopie Slings on my HH
    i wanna upgrade from stock ..i will still use my tee huggers and maybe a MSH
    dunno yet...i want to see what others have done and how they did it befor I take the plunge

    Thanks
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    Remove the stock suspension and larks head the dead eye to the end of your hammock. Check out the vid in my signature.

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    all depends on what you think about the look of the finished product. If you want it to look like factory fresh then you need to do a little more than what opie suggests.

    1. find a supply of zip ties, because
    2. snip the zip ties on on the covers over the HH knot. Slide the covers up the rope.
    3. Untie the HH wrap. The final knot is a bowline---at least it was on mine---and undo all the wraps through holes and such. You might want to shoot some photos as you take it apart, because you are going to put it back together again.

    here's what mine looked like before I started in on it



    What is happening is that that the main suspension line is coming in, being wrapped through holes, comes back out and under one or more of those wraps, passes through the loop for the structural ridgeline, and is tied off in a bowline.

    So after taking this apart, thread the knot cap onto the new suspension line and have the new suspension line do exactly what the old one did, up to the point where you'd tie it off in a bowline. When I put rings on my HH, this is what it looked like up to that point.



    Here my "suspension line" is actually a doubled aircore line, so two parallel strands are being treated as one line.

    So here I left enough line so that I could tie it off in a bowline, and then cover it all up with the knot cover (and finish off with a zip tie replacement). Now if you were doing this with cord to do a DIY Whoopie Sling, what you'd want here is enough length, say 4", to bury into the suspension line. The net effect would be to have a buried eye that is all wrapped up in the HH framework, working just as the original suspension did. Or, if you have already the Whoopie Sling with an eye splice, you could push the eye splice through as the head of the cord doing the HH wrap thing, and when you're done you'd have a loop (as I did in the picture above, but for other reasons) and could feed the suspension line through the eye splice. Here you'd want to tighten it up before slipping the cover over it.

    The scary sounding thing is popping the top off the HH knot and undoing it. If you aren't scared of rope work, this is actually pretty simple.

    On HF there are other threads and other pictures on replacing the HH suspension cord, you might look those up as well.

    good luck

    Grizz

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    I made a small fixed eye in Amsteel 7/64" line and then

    -ran the eye up through the outermost hole
    -made a couple of wraps between the holes
    -came up through the second hole
    -went through the ridgeline end loop (black)
    -took the eye down through the outermost hole.
    -fed the long end of the line through the eye
    -took up any slack and neatened up the line

    Once attached to the hammock you can proceed to making the adjustable part of the whoopie sling.

    I had originally just tied off the unfinished (no fixed eye) Amsteel to the hammock, just like it comes from the factory, but felt that ending it with the bowline just wasn't a very elegant solution. The fixed eye is much cleaner.

    Also, you can actually remove the whole system by feeding the adjustable portion of the sling back through the eye and then work the eye back out of the hammock end and holes.

    The picture shows top and bottom views of the same method.

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    thanks everyone so far for posting...keep them coming ...my hole goal of this post is to know every way to set up whoopie slings on a HH
    seems to me that I will need to remove the stock line from the hammock
    anyone have a video of them doing so ??
    if not no big deal..i just would like to know all info on what i'm getting into befor i do it...i'm not one to just jump into something without some prep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlespaul View Post
    seems to me that I will need to remove the stock line from the hammock
    anyone have a video of them doing so ??
    if not no big deal..i just would like to know all info on what i'm getting into befor i do it...i'm not one to just jump into something without some prep.
    Once you open it up you'll see how simple it is. You won't need a video.

    To play it safe, what I do is take digital pics before untying to remind me how to put it back together again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    I made a small fixed eye in Amsteel 7/64" line and then

    -ran the eye up through the outermost hole
    -made a couple of wraps between the holes
    -came up through the second hole
    -went through the ridgeline end loop (black)
    -took the eye down through the outermost hole.
    -fed the long end of the line through the eye
    -took up any slack and neatened up the line

    Once attached to the hammock you can proceed to making the adjustable part of the whoopie sling.

    I had originally just tied off the unfinished (no fixed eye) Amsteel to the hammock, just like it comes from the factory, but felt that ending it with the bowline just wasn't a very elegant solution. The fixed eye is much cleaner.

    Also, you can actually remove the whole system by feeding the adjustable portion of the sling back through the eye and then work the eye back out of the hammock end and holes.

    The picture shows top and bottom views of the same method.

    That is brilliant Knotty! Nice factory finish method for changing to any custom suspension on a HH.
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    greenlespaul,
    just noticed where you are---how many times have you done the Yuengling tour? I did it when I went through PA and it was awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    greenlespaul,
    just noticed where you are---how many times have you done the Yuengling tour? I did it when I went through PA and it was awesome.
    HAHAH you know...i was waiting for someone to bring that up
    I took the Tour....Oh god years ago when i was a kid havn't taken it in a long time...thats all i drink is yuengling ..MMMmm either cheddy ale or Porter...my Favs i have a few friends that work there also

    As for taking pics as i go along thats a good idea Knotty that may be the way to go or even set up the camcorder

    Now here is another thing...How many oz will i save i'm not trying to be a GW but I have back problems and i want to cut as many oz as i can without going total GW
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    I'm not sure you'll save much weight over the stock Hennessy suspension but you'll gain easy adjustment and up the cool factor of your hammock.

    The stock HH suspension is just suspension line, tree huggers and the HH figure 8 knot. The Amsteel will be lighter than the stock line, but it has to double back on itself, so you need more of it, negating some of the benefit.

    The beauty of all this is that nothing prevents you from putting the stock line back on and returning your Hennessy to its original config.
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