Burrow 40 Help!

**sampson** · 02-22-2016, 22:15

Right now my 40 degree tq is unsnapped and hanging out on our sofa. Wife and I share on those cold nights.

**Grumpy Squatch** · 02-23-2016, 04:03

Originally Posted by Kyle L

Did any of you end up going with the wide option, I also sleep on my side most of the time and was going to go for the wide option, I figure I could pop a leg or two out if I was overheating, if I wake up hot and had the snaps I wouldn't want to mess with undoing them in the middle of the nite so if it wasn't already in blanket mode I would just pop a leg out like I do with sewn quilts. Grumpy dose the quilt shift alot when it's flat?

Never had a problem with shifting - but my 0° and 20° quilts are UGQ Renegades, 56" wide, and the vertical baffles help the drape. My 40° is only 48", but I'm much less concerned with sealing drafts above 40°.

If you decide on sewn footboxes and are worried about having room to move your knees around, my advice is to go long first, then wide, especially if the quilt has a strong taper. Both my sewn quilts are 78". That way if I want more room to spread a leg I push the quilt down and my knees reach an area of less taper. (I can also pull them over my head for an extra few minutes of darkness in the morning if I need to.)

**Kyle L** · 02-23-2016, 12:03

Last nite I used my other quilt witch has a sewn footbox and pushed it down like you said to spread my legs out when I got hot and It worked fine, I'm a cold sleeper and my feet usually get cold, seeing as it will be a 40deg Bag I don't think I will have much trouble at that temperature. Iv hear the drawstring opens up sometimes when you use it in footbox mode or the snaps comeing undone have any of you experienced this?

**Storytellertn** · 02-23-2016, 12:51

Originally Posted by Kyle L

Last nite I used my other quilt witch has a sewn footbox and pushed it down like you said to spread my legs out when I got hot and It worked fine, I'm a cold sleeper and my feet usually get cold, seeing as it will be a 40deg Bag I don't think I will have much trouble at that temperature. Iv hear the drawstring opens up sometimes when you use it in footbox mode or the snaps comeing undone have any of you experienced this?

I have not had either of these issues. The drawstring can be secured, if it is really cold, I have used a rubber band to seal the end. Again, I push cclothes in the bottom if it is close to zero degrees.

**Kyle L** · 02-23-2016, 13:12

Thanks StoryTellerTN I appreciate the help! This is really a HYOH type of question and I appreciate all the feedback from both sides.

**Storytellertn** · 02-23-2016, 13:24

I agree with HYOH. I have both, I'm a winner either way.

**Ragabash** · 02-23-2016, 13:34

I have a 0 degree quilt, and wish I would have went with a sewn footbox for it, but for a warmer weather quilt, I wouldn't give up snaps. I can widen the foot hole to vent, or even unsnap it altogether, and make the quilt much more comfortable in a much wider range of temperatures. I have used my 0 degree in this way up to 50 degrees comfortably. When it is colder, I just stuff a sock in the opening and draw it tight to prevent leaks. I have to imagine that a sewn footbox is warmer, though.

**Kyle L** · 02-23-2016, 13:37

I think I'm going to attend a group hang or something and see if someone will let me try one with snaps out!

**Str1der** · 02-26-2016, 14:31

I agree that under 20 degrees should always use sewn because it's just so much less likely to leak heat. At 40 degrees, you have an option, but I personally would still go sewn. I would only get the snaps in two situations:
1. You intend to use it extensively at home as a blanket (and I would use a cheap $20 throw for that, not my backpacking gear).
2. You think you will often sleep in weather so warm that you might not need a quilt at all (then the venting might be handy).

In all other cases, I would go sewn. You can still vent the sewn style by just draping it over your feet without actually getting into it, but a snaps closure has permanently reduced the insulation. I have a sewn 40 degree burrow, and I've never once wished it had snaps.

**Str1der** · 02-26-2016, 14:37

Also, you have to know your own body and how you sleep. If you are a hot sleeper, then maybe snaps would work well to extend the temps you can use your quilt. I'd personally much rather err on the side of caution and go with sewn.