now we need an underquilt

[dlh34]

Many people carry more insulation than they need, for whatever reason. If you're a car camper, there's no need to get a 3/4 UQ. However, a hiker would find a 15.43 ounce Phoenix to be much more attractive than a 22 ounce Incubator. There are weight savings and bulk savings to be had.

I've been hammocking long enough to know that 3/4 UQs work great for me down to about 30* F. Lower than that, I rely on a 0* Incubator.

Thank you for your input and I see what you are saying. I do both, car camp and hike. i am sure I will end up with different sets of quilts. I am still on the fence on the 3/4. I think that I am going with the 20* incubator to start. So that brings up my next question, Argon 67 or Argon 90? What are the pros and cons of each? I am sure there is a little weight difference but what is the difference in durability? And thank you again for your insight and experience.

[jamaulwall]

I think the 20 Incubator is a good first UQ. I've taken mine, with 1 oz overfill, down to 15° F comfortably while wearing some additional layers. A hot water bottle works well too.

As far as the fabric goes, my UQ'S never touch the ground so I prefer a lighter weight fabric. The only places they are going to get wear from is putting them in and out of the pack (I don't use stuff sacks). That's my take anyway.