Hi Everyone! Your favorite newbie is back with more questions! I should be receiving my dutch 11ft hammock in the next day or so. I should also be receiving my Noah's tarp shortly after. However, I just realized that I probably need to buy stakes and guylines. What type of rope or material do you recommend for my guylines and ridgeline? I will be using my hammock for hiking and camping. Also do you recommend a continuous ridgeline for the tarp or not?
Of course thanks everyone!
Also how much footage should I get for the guylines and the ridgeline?
A lot of your questions will get different answers so in time you will find what lengths and what type work for your preference. Enjoy the journey of finding out.
Here is some intel in the meantime....https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...r4JzQgQ_iyB2RU
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When I got my Noah 4 years ago, it came with those shepherd hook stakes and line for pullouts. They worked, but I did end up replacing them with some proper gear. Enjoy your new tarp!
I use dutch stingerz for the "ridgeline" and fleaZ on all tie outs
I'm a noob myself, but I personally like a continuous ridge line for my tarp in part because it's easy to adjust where your tarp is so it's easier to center over your hammock. I also like that if you use a continuous ridge line it'll work with any length tarp so you only have to have one for all of the tarps we're bound to collect. I first learned about the continuous ridge line from The Ultimate Hang. http://theultimatehang.com/2012/11/v...s-with-a-tarp/
I personally have a diamond tarp, so I only need two guy lines. I immediately scrapped the steel L-hook tie out stakes that came with my tarp and upgraded to aluminum Y-stakes. My tarp also came with 4 guy lines for setting up the tarp 2 for pitching and two for guy lines, I'll likely upgrade those eventually, but they're fine for now. I only use two of the guy lines since I use a continuous ridge line, but I keep a third just in case. I've got just shy of 50' of poly line for my continuous ridge line, and in playing with my tarp in my back yard, any trees that are close enough together to hang my hammock, that's WAY more than I need, but it's light and I'm not an ultralight (or even light) guy so it's not an issue for me. I personally like knots, so the extra line is helpful for that. I also don't own hiking poles (yet) so I haven't tried pitching my tarp in "porch mode" so the short guy lines that came with my tarp are just fine. Of course, I've only just got started with hammocking this year and haven't gotten out on an actual trip with my hammock yet, I'm still getting all of my gear together. I've just done a lot of backyard hanging and experimentation. As always YMMV and HYOH
Last edited by marksman1122; 06-07-2016 at 12:09.
The Kelty Noah is a pain in the butt to get taut. I'd recommend a Zing-It 1.75 mm ridgeline and tie-outs - virtually no stretch in Zing-It. I usually use 6 or 8 ft. guylines. Here in the Northeast the ground can be rocky so longer guylines give you more options, and you can always tie off to a rock or tree branch worst case.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." Ralph Waldo Emerson
Yes, Zing-it all the way.
Just today I purchased some of the 2.2mm for other uses since it's easier to work with in your hands. But for tarps, go 1.75mm + Dutchware.
The cordage that comes with the Noah is crazy!! They might as well use shockcord.
Oh you're killing me!! I just bought one for a kitchen area when car camping because I could never get my 16' plastic tarp taut. Hopefully it's a big step up though.Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr
I started with a Noah 12 and I still think its an awesome tarp for the money. Its versatile and durable (read: Heavy). I had no problems getting it taut personally. Just has a fiddle factor to it.
“The word hammockable (Meaning: two trees that are the perfect distance apart between which a hammock can be hung) is not in the dictionary, but it should be.”
I recently purchased a KNT 12x12 as well. I use a continuous ridgeline with a soft shackle on one end, and connect it to the tarp with a Dutchware Tarp Flee(z) on the other. This makes centering the tarp very easy. My Flee is attached to the tarp via a continuous loop larksheaded onto the tarp pullout. My CRL is roughly 35'.
I also use the same setup on my guy-line tie-outs, continuous loops with Fleez. I use aluminum Y stakes and about 8' of line for the four tie-outs with a fixed loop on one end, and attach that to my Fleez to tighten my tarp.
I can get my tarp taught without any problems. If by "taught" one means "wrinkle free" that is a different discussion.
Here's a short vid of our most recent trip. I didn't talk about the tarp, but you can see it set up.
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