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    Hammock body guylines

    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    this is off topic, but i've never created a new thread before a couldn't figure out how to do it.

    anyways, i was wondering what hammocks besides a hh, have guylines on the sides that pull apart the hammock body/netting? guylines for the fly don't count...Brandon
    Created the thread so that any discussion on this can be properly found.

    I think an observation made in the now-dormant thread on patents has some bearing here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ac33 View Post
    this book is from 1904 ...
    Link to that posting to see a picture of a page from a book describing a "Hammock Sleeping Tent". The page includes the text
    The tent is suspended by the ridge from a heavy rope supported on trees or posts. It is kept taut on the side by tent ropes attached to stakes driven in the ground.
    There is no differential between hammock body and fly here. The guylines are pulling apart the sides of the body to keep it taut.

    These guylines are not placed asymmetrically however. A modern hammock sold with symmetrically placed guylines on its body ought to be outside the domain of a patent that specifically claims asymmetric placement as a protected invention. In an earlier posting I pointed the Hennessey patent on tie-outs

    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams View Post
    ... I mention that the Hennessey patent claims appear to include the pull-out ties on the sides. Claim 1 of US Patent 6865757
    (see http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6865757-claims.html )
    Read the claim and you see that it specifically covers tie-outs that create an asymmetric tension axis. Looks like the asymmetry of the warbonnet's tie-outs are key to its making room at the foot and head, and fit the description.

    hat-tip to ac33 for finding the 1904 book!

    See also the image of the S3 "with fly" attached

    http://www.backpacking.net/gear-reviews/sss/

    It has, on close inspection a line visible which I don't think is a
    fly's guyline. It's the dark one at about 7 o'clock from the tent body.
    The guyline for the fly corner closest to the observer is barely visible.
    Text describing the shelter describes the fly as having 6 guylines, so the
    one at 7 o'clock is something else. Text description on Weather Resistence says
    "The sides of the fly, as well as the hammock can be staked down to provide additional stability".


    Grizz
    Last edited by GrizzlyAdams; 06-11-2007 at 08:32. Reason: description of another shelter; then correct comment on warbonnet

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