Broken Guy Lines??

[woodstove]

I have used cheap Mason's line for my tarp tie outs. Pink for the left and lime green for the right as a a spinoff from the nautical navigation lights red port green starboard. I can cut them, splice them and feel no pain.
I like Ds in tabs for using them as a bearing when tightening using a transport tightening system. I would never use steel unless it's stainless to avoid rust and abrasion in the fabric. Brass, stainless steel or if I was rich titanium.

If you've ever been close lined by high tech, ultra fine line, you know where I'm coming from!

[hlee00-05]

I went with gutted paracord for my tarp tieouts. It has a 150 lb break strength, and is very light. It does have some stretch to it, but I can live with that- its really not that hard to go around and move a few lines. 100 ft will run you about $7-8 at any surplus store and it comes in about every color imaginable- even reflective. The inner strands- which I removed- are each rated at 50 lb break strength and can be saved for other projects. I have found that some paracord will not hold a very good knot, but others will hold well. But, once gutted, the outer sleeve will hold a very tight knot and untie pretty easily. The high tech, super strong, super thin lines can sometimes be difficult to untie. At less than $0.10 per foot it is easy on the wallet. That I already had a bunch of gutted cord laying around from another project was just a bonus.

[OneClick]

275 paracord is another option. About 2.4mm and $8 for 100ft. Seems less stretchy than the common 550 cord.

[metalhanger]

You could treat the paracord and braided mason's line with silicone>> increase strength and water resistance.

[WalksIn2Trees]

You could treat the paracord and braided mason's line with silicone>> increase strength and water resistance.

Sil-paracord hmmm... Though if you're going to go to that effort you might just as well get Amsteel and be done with it

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[Federico]

I use dyneema for sailing and mostly for 2 reasons:
- it won't tangle or twist and any knot can be easily undone
- it is extremely resistant to abrasion

Both characteristics can be very useful in hammocks and tarps as well

[skyjacker]

Anybody use Dutchware? Split rings come in real handy for tarpworms, fleaz, flyz, etc... Although, there may be a good reason Dutch larks heads a 3/32 shock cord loop onto the tie out with tarpworms.

[HandyRandy]

The problem that I worry about with the split rings is that they usually have these pretty sharp pointy ends. They can catch on cords, webbing, fabrics, and fingers from time to time. What is the bending point for these little guys anyway? How exactly is the double split ring system that UGQ uses suppose to work?

I’m thinking of just taking the rings off the ground tie-outs and only leave them on the RL for now. I’ll just tie a bowline to attach my Dutchwire directly to the webbing. Then I’ll lark some Dutch Fleaz in-line for tension and locking. Is there anything to be concerned about doing it like this? Like this, but minus the rings:

[dirtwheels]

The OP mentions a point of failure in the guy lines to protect tarps. And if there are concerns about sharp ends on the split rings an option could be Niteyes S-Biners available in various weight ratings. That would provide abrasion protection for the tieouts and a customizable point of failure.

Personally I prefer the 2,spilt rings on the ground tie outs like warbonnet and UGQ use because you can loop guy lines thru 2 of them like a belt and have a simple tension adjustment reachable from under the tarp with ease. I do use s-bikers for many purposes.

http://www.niteize.com/product/S-Biner-Plastic.asp

There is no reason you couldn’t utilize some Dutch bling for the tie outs, many do.

[HandyRandy]

Oh, nevermind. I had it up for a while and it was windy and maybe I had it too tight as well, but the Dutchwire was already showing signs of abrasion on the ridgeline right where I clipped it to a Stinger. I’m gonna switch to orange reflect-it and Stingerz for all tie-outs.

Personally I prefer the 2,spilt rings on the ground tie outs like warbonnet and UGQ use because you can loop guy lines thru 2 of them like a belt and have a simple tension adjustment reachable from under the tarp with ease

This is what I’m curious about. Can someone elaborate?

If there are concerns about sharp ends on the split rings…

I’m surprised no one else is. At least I haven’t seen anyone mention it. And the fact that vendors use them must mean something too. But look at that point! You can certainly do some damage with it if you wanted to.