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    7th Idaho Sawtooth Hang?

    I haven't seen any buzz on a 7th hang this year. Is it going through this year?

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    I would not make travel plans.

    Since July 18th a massive wildfire has burned a huge swath across the central mountains and worked closer and closer to the Sawtooths daily. At this point it does not look like it will burn into the Sawtooths but the smoke and ash are blowing down wind right over the range. Visibility at times is under a mile, other times blue skys.

    Additionally there has only been 2 people RSVP in the last year....not much of a group hang.

    I have held off making a 100% decision in the hopes that the fire would be more contained, that some would show some interest in joining the group and that we could still put together a hike.

    As of Today I am 90% sure that the hang will not happen this year.

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    This is the smoke column from near our house about 50 miles from the fire....the fire is less than 20 from the Sawtooths and strait down wind.

    The Ruby Hang in NE Nevada though is shaping up and looking like a good group.
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    Thanks for the quick reply! I'd heard the fires were pretty bad in Idaho, I hope some great rain is headed your way. I probably won't be able to get work off the weekend of the ruby hang but thanks for the invite. I'll keep my eyes open for next year's get togethers, now that I have a steady job and longer weekends!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pgibson View Post

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    This is the smoke column from near our house about 50 miles from the fire....the fire is less than 20 from the Sawtooths and strait down wind.
    WOW!!!! Looks like a volcano.... take care out there brother....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sr1355 View Post
    WOW!!!! Looks like a volcano....
    100 years of miss management of the forests and it may as well be. The forest that has burned will not grow back in my kids lives. Amazing places destroyed, where we held the Spring Meat and Greet Hang is now gone, a great lake where a friend and I float tube fished for 15-16" cutthroat now gone, and miles and miles still burning. Just as bad as if lava had rolled through, the ground is sterilized in these bad of fires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgibson View Post
    100 years of miss management of the forests and it may as well be. The forest that has burned will not grow back in my kids lives. Amazing places destroyed, where we held the Spring Meat and Greet Hang is now gone, a great lake where a friend and I float tube fished for 15-16" cutthroat now gone, and miles and miles still burning. Just as bad as if lava had rolled through, the ground is sterilized in these bad of fires.
    This is becoming a common occurrence out here. I hiked the Gila in NM this summer and surveyed the damage done during the White Water Baldy fire... 465 square miles of forest gone, in an area that looks like it will never again get enough water to even support growing a new forest.

    I'd love to blame MIS-management... The truth is climate change is reeking havoc on Western wild lands.. Regardless of what's causing it.

    I'm sorry to hear that Idaho is just the latest to feel the pain...


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    Quote Originally Posted by pgibson View Post
    100 years of miss management of the forests and it may as well be. The forest that has burned will not grow back in my kids lives. Amazing places destroyed, where we held the Spring Meat and Greet Hang is now gone, a great lake where a friend and I float tube fished for 15-16" cutthroat now gone, and miles and miles still burning. Just as bad as if lava had rolled through, the ground is sterilized in these bad of fires.
    It saddens me that to see so many environmentalists and outdoor lovers push Congress to adopt new wilderness areas and national monuments in order to "conserve and protect" these places, not realizing that this is the conservation that they often end up with when a bureaucrat in Washington D.C. is managing it. When will we learn that local management and protection is often superior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgibson View Post
    Amazing places destroyed, where we held the Spring Meat and Greet Hang is now gone,
    This area wow it was lovely no more as in gone. With 2 hangs down what next ah the Ruby Mtns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardDavies View Post
    It saddens me that to see so many environmentalists and outdoor lovers push Congress to adopt new wilderness areas and national monuments in order to "conserve and protect" these places, not realizing that this is the conservation that they often end up with when a bureaucrat in Washington D.C. is managing it. When will we learn that local management and protection is often superior?

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    Well, respectfully I disagree. Locals tend to want to create jobs and opportunities for their constituents. Allowing timber/mining/ranching interests to come in creates jobs and taxes that fund local schools and government needs. I'm not in any way saying that federal oversight is better, just that protecting wild lands is not something that should be left "just" to local oversight.

    A lot of folks say that the reason these fires are so damaging, is that for years we have suppressed fire allowing a buildup of material that would not normally happen if these smaller fires were just left to burn. Well... Now these fires are huge and basically we can't to anything to contain them. In effect ridding the forests of all that flammable material.

    It is pretty depressing to see this happen... I don't like the loss of these beautiful areas.


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    That's to bad about the fires, I was one of the 3 that attempted last years hang but we got snowed out. That part of Idaho is really special and it's a shame to see it get burned almost every year.

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