I'm just going to post again to see if my new signature is working.
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...And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun... "TIME" by Pink Floyd
www.linvillegorge.net -Ken's site
www.heavens-above.com -(set your own "home" site)
Warbonnet double 1.7 Blackbird
Winter Yeti
1/4" GG ThinLight pad folded under legs, but on top of pack.
JRB Rocky Mtn Sniveler
Warbonnet SuperFly
I wear a heavy weight base layer with thick wool socks. On my head I have a balaclava and wool watch cap. I also wear mittens on my hands. When I'm out in that stuff I always bring chemical heat packs along for 'just in case' moments. Haven't needed them so far.
I sleep really warm to begin with, so take my cold weather posts with a bit of salt; I can go lower with less than most. Combine that with a very low humidity climate and -20 isn't as bad as it sounds. I routinely camp in weather below zero, but believe me, I'm no turk or shug.
Trust nobody!
Thanks Cannibal for the explanation of your -20* setup. I too am a "warm" sleeper, and I am just getting into "hanging" the past 6 months or so. I like to sleep in nothing more than underwear if possible, and I find it quite uncomfortable to try to sleep while dressed like the Michelin Man. I am realizing that for me to sleep "comfortably" while backpacking and get any where close to low temps (20* and below), it gets a bit expensive if your not a DIY'er, OR I'll have to carry more bulk and weight than I want to. I don't mind at all spending the money if I believe it to be justifiable, but if I am not able to get out backpacking but 1 or 2 times during the winter (here in NC) I just don't see (for me) justification for that kind of cost.
It appears that at least for the near future, that if I'm able to get out to the woods, I'm going to be basically "truck" camping and Randy's (and all others) posts set out a good way to do so while hanging (near vehicle) without a large investment in gear. Thanks Randy (and others) for all the input!
(Which brings up another side to this story. If I'm basically truck camping, why not just sleep in the back of the truck? I have a setup that allows me to sleep (and camp) very comfortably in the truck, plus I have very little setup or take down to contend with.)
...And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun... "TIME" by Pink Floyd
www.linvillegorge.net -Ken's site
www.heavens-above.com -(set your own "home" site)
[(Which brings up another side to this story. If I'm basically truck camping, why not just sleep in the back of the truck? I have a setup that allows me to sleep (and camp) very comfortably in the truck, plus I have very little setup or take down to contend with.)
No reason, at all, as long as you can sleep there comfortably. Did it myself for years.
What drives me, and many others, to the trees is the promise of sleep without pain, which equates to a good night's sleep that leaves me rested and refreshed, not achy and grumpy.
Dave
"Loneliness is the poverty of self; solitude is the richness of self."~~~May Sarton
I tested this exact config the other day.
Got to messing around in the garage putting away some things, looked over at my truck, let the tailgate down, threw down my Exped DownMat 9 DLX, GI ECW bag on top of that, and crawled in. Loved it!
My Honda Ridgeline has a factory tonneau cover. I just flipped it down and covered up.
It was comfortable and warm. I liked it!
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