Advice from Black Bird owners/users

[Blue Caboose]

All of the enthusiasm on HF for the black bird from experianced hammock users has me sold. It even looks like WB Guy is making a top quilt (saw Shug's). The question that I am hoping you all can help me with is using separate insulation under the legs. What are some ways, ideas, other than using a pad. I don't usually carry a pad any more and don't want to add it to my pack. I am thinking of maybe using my rain jacket and putting spare clothes in it to make a pad that would slip between the layers. Any ideas are much appreciated.

[Cannibal]

More often than not, I use my pack under my legs. Depends on the type of pack you lug, but if it's an internal frame or frameless pack, it works great!
But this question seems to apply more to the use of a Yeti underquilt than it does a Blackbird hammock. If using a full length uq on a Blackbird, there is no need for additional insulation under the legs.

[Bug-Bait]

I have a Speer Snugfit that I use with my BB as an underquilt and am happy with it. It probably weighs more than the 3/4 underquilt, but I've been happy with it...and, I don't carry a pad with me.

[Blue Caboose]

Thanks Cannibal, You are right I guess it is about the Yeti. I am looking for the complete system and the only glitch (for me) is that the Yeti is torso lenght. My pack is an internal frame but has a stiff hip belt that does not fold down so probably won't work. I am probably making more out of this than neccesary, I can usually figure something out to stay warm. The winter Yeti appeals to me because it is good to as cold as I will want to be out in and it is part of the "system" that WB Guy seems to be developing.

[KONAC]

More often than not, I use my pack under my legs. Depends on the type of pack you lug, but if it's an internal frame or frameless pack, it works great!
But this question seems to apply more to the use of a Yeti underquilt than it does a Blackbird hammock. If using a full length uq on a Blackbird, there is no need for additional insulation under the legs.

When you are talking about UQ and TQ are you using those in place of a sleeping bag? And does the UQ go in the BB or under it?
Thanks

[Cannibal]

When you are talking about UQ and TQ are you using those in place of a sleeping bag? And does the UQ go in the BB or under it?
Thanks

Welcome to the Forum KONAC!
Yes, I use them in place of a sleeping bag. The underquilt (UQ) does hang on the outside and bottom of the BB so that the insulation is not compressed and rendered useless.

[spidennis]

welcome KONAC .....
yup, you got some threads to go thru, and all fascinating stuff and thanks to the hammock forums we can learn at a much quicker rate rather than stumbling on in the dark by ourselves. I try to add photos to my posts when ever I can to help relay my point.
My blackbird in the bivy mode requires a pad, no uq, but the uq could be used as a top quilt in this case. this is still in the experimental/prototyping/modeling stages btw .....

[KONAC]

So you what do use inside to lay on
sorry for such stupid questions but Im just getting started and need to know what I should get. Thanks to you and shug looks like Im leaning to the blackbird but am still trying to figure out the best tarp. All you guys help has been great. Just want to get everything correct first time around. Thanks

[Cannibal]

So you what do use inside to lay on

Not a thing.
What stupid questions? We were all new once.

[Mustardman]

You mentioned legs, but you didn't mention what you are using for insulation for your torso - will you be using the warbonnet yeti?