Short Hang Distances with Whoopie Slings?

**DuctTapeMessiah** · 05-08-2017, 20:41

Whoopies are great but not the most flexible. I switched to Muletape with straps and even though they're white and not nearly as cool they are more functional but to solve your issue I would +1 on Paul's +1.

**hutzelbein** · 05-09-2017, 04:03

I went back to a cinch buckle / webbing suspension for that reason. But I'm planning to shorten the webbing, and splice Dutch Whoopie Hooks into the fixed eye of the Whoopies. I can then connect them easily to the continuous loops on my hammock - or disconnect them just as quickly. Currently I'm using Dutch Spiders, but I want to try Dutch Beetle Buckles. Cinch buckles for short and medium hangs - plus Whoopies for long hangs. Best of both worlds with only a small weight penalty.

**IcyThunder** · 05-09-2017, 04:46

The end of my hammock has Nano 22 biners. When I go shorter distances, I use the biners in place of toggles with a marlin spike on the tree strap section of my strap/whoopie combo (ENO Helios straps). It has always held really well for me, and I'm a big girl.

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**Wanderlost** · 05-09-2017, 05:24

I'm another in the camp of those who just ditched the whoopies. They're great if you have room, but I tend to underestimate distances and always ended up fighting with the minimum distance on them. Switching to just straps and beckett hitching them is great!

**Campdavid** · 05-10-2017, 17:28

Finally ditched the whoopies too. Still have them on one or two hammocks in my box of stuff but my regular use setups all have straps now....some with buckles from Dutch and some with the "plates" from Arrowhead....like them both quite a bit.

**Geekeneer** · 05-10-2017, 18:01

I have straps with Dutch Spiders and most of the time just hook up to the continuous loop. I've carried whoopies the last two trips and not used them so maybe it is time to leave them at home.

**Billy Goat** · 05-10-2017, 18:23

I use whoopie hooks. I also cheated the whoopie principle pretty thoroughly. I have a 1.5" eye on the end, the eye bury is only 3", and I only made a 7" bury for the adjustable portion and I put it 1/2" from the end of the eye bury. It works out well enough for me. I do find that if I don't smooth the bury down after setup I can occasionally be let down toward (though not yet TO) the ground over the course of the night. If I do smooth it down and milk it, I have no problem. Even as an unsvelte feller, I don't have a problem with the short bury. If I get onto a smaller tree, I wrap my huggers several times around the tree and can essentially hang it off the tree with a 9" minimum per side, if the need should arise.

**lilbear** · 09-03-2017, 02:40

I'm about to ditch the whoopies too. I like them well enough and use them as part of the Phantom grappler. But I'm short enough that I can't even get my straps high enough up the tree to allow for long enough distances to need whoopies and straps. I've just been using a whoopie on one side to help with adjustability and a Beckett hitch to my con't loop on the other. I think I'm gonna just start using the Beckett hitch on both sides for simplicity and carry a couple dogbones if I need some slack... maybe keep a whoopie with me just in case

**Baka Dasai** · 09-03-2017, 18:33

Originally Posted by gargoyle

Pass your whoopies thru the strap. Join whoopies together (rated carabiner or soft shackle) over the hammock.

I've done it. If you have 6' whoopies and sub 12' hammock.
Strap is wrapped around tree, passed thru the eye/loop of the strap, and spiked with a toggle to lock it place. "on zee knot, not zee toggle"..
You can run your hammock tight to the trees.
Tarp is useless in such a tight place.

That's a pretty good idea. Thanks.

My alternative idea was to tighten the adjustable part of the whoopie around the hammock whipping, thus creating a loop similar in size to if you had a continuous loop. Then attach the tree strap to this "loop".

**wa4chq** · 09-07-2017, 07:31

Originally Posted by pgibson

The other of course is to pick another set of trees that are more appropriately spaced. If it's to tight to hang the hammock and tighten up the slings then it's also probably going to be pretty tight to hang your tarp and move around the ends of the hammock as needed.

This seems to be a problem I run into a few times....not length of slings but trees too close. A bit difficult to get the tarp right but manage. Some places the tree spacing, wind direction etc just don't line up.... it's all fun though. The more I do it the more I learn. I'm looking forward to getting out again now that it's cooler.