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    Morning all,

    I am curious. How does one purchase this? I went to the website. I found the " Tensa Solo " model but I can find the Tensa4 model?

    Thank you in advance.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draketake View Post
    Morning all,

    I am curious. How does one purchase this? I went to the website. I found the " Tensa Solo " model but I can find the Tensa4 model?

    Thank you in advance.

    Bob
    Here: https://www.tensaoutdoor.com/product...order-deposit/


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    Thanks Curly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff-oh View Post
    Is it just me or does the Tensa Taco failure mode just scream potential product liability issue. I would not begin to assume that this condition would be acceptable in a commercial product. I am glad to hear that the second tie down was added. Will that eliminate this failure mode?

    I just envision a 3 or 4 year-old sitting in the hammock and having their head caught between that snapping pole like a mouse trap. I think Shug's video illustrates the this very well. The known failure mode is fast, quick and potentially deadly.
    There are a number of contraptions in our lives that carry a degree of risk when using them, yet we accept the risk as a society (even the lawyers). Even though I get in and out of cars almost every day, I have been walloped by my own door when parked on a hill in a heavy wind. That was my fault and not the product's inherent liability. I've been whacked by screen doors in a windy gale too many times, but I sure do like screen doors most of the time. People quickly figure out how to mitigate risk and employ reasonable safety measures since we've learned that we can't sue accidents out of existence or eliminate all possible failure modes. We typically supervise children near bodies of water and when crossing streets. The same reasonable diligence is applied to hammocks and stands with the understanding that nothing in life is completely guaranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watertooner View Post
    People quickly figure out how to mitigate risk and employ reasonable safety measures since we've learned that we can't sue accidents out of existence or eliminate all possible failure modes.
    Indeed. Not to quibble, but failure modes are a thing in engineering and maybe even law. Absolutely everything has failure modes. They shouldn't represent some great unknown, but are a place for engineering to consider too. Everything fails, but what are the consequences of failure? How can things be made to fail in a minimally harmful manner? It's important to work it out instead of just hope things won't ever fail.

    To this hour, I hope people get comfy with the taco. It's a pretty graceful failure mode among all possibilities. If the alternative is locking down both head and foot end and then never paying attention to balance, treating the stand like a jungle gym, there are more potential points of failure. If both guylines are tensioned hard, the load on the poles goes up, cutting into the safety margin. Should we then adjust the max weight rating downward? How much? How many pounds of tension are on the line? Who will measure? If you rely on the head anchor to hold as much as the foot, now you have 2 anchors to make sure you trust instead of 1. Is that really safer? This is why we put shock cord in the head tether, and call it a tether instead of a guyline: deliberately light duty.

    Other thing some people get nervous about are the lines, and wear. Yes they should be inspected for wear. The way we did it, you pretty much are forced to inspect the lines at the wear points every time you set up the stand. Semi-permanent/rigid end connectors would not only weigh more, giving more momentum to taco scenario, they might give a false sense of security about their condition, less frequent inspection.

    Another thing about the connectors is they are deliberately loose. When you close up the connectors like a hinge, the pinch potential is greatly minimized by the loose floppiness of the joints. More like chopsticks, less like nutcracker or scissors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latherdome View Post
    When you close up the connectors like a hinge, the pinch potential is greatly minimized by the loose floppiness of the joints. More like chopsticks, less like nutcracker or scissors.
    this is a good point too

    I made an initial attempt using actual hinges

    it's not a good choice

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