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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotaross View Post
    One caution on that, though, is the fact that besides pad R-rating being dubious anyway, they're based on full inflation and on a flat surface with no convection heat loss underneath. So, air pads are both "da bomb" for comfort, and also challenged in producing the insulation that they are rated for in a hammock, especially when they are not fully inflated.

    Probably a good fix for that is to have a piece of reflectix underneath. However, most insulated air pads are designed to get you into the 20s on the ground, and most people don't camp in those temps, so it may be sort of a moot point for most.
    I understand the trade offs regarding inflation levels. Actually my fix in my ninety degree hammocks when temps exceed the comfort afforded solely by a pad is to place the pad on top and use a down or synthetic IQ in the pad pocket. These range from a Ridgecreek Apex from WBRR; DIY costco throw; DIY costco throw with 1/4" CCF inserted inside the throw; and a DIY IQ converted from a rectangular down sleeping bag for the lowest temps.

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    I forgot to mention one distinct design difference in the hammocktent gamma UL and the Ergo have (and possibly the Amok Draumr?). The pad pocket is differentially cut so that the insulation is not squished, and hence losing as much insulation as it would in hammocks with a non-differential, or minimal differential cut, such as the WBRR. Therefore, a lightly inflated pad is able to retain more insulation value. This is also true when you insert synthetic or down insulation items, e.g. costco down throw or DIY sleeping bag IQ.

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