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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    trongest. Now they make them in China so they used lead thread a webbing made from human wastes.
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    Has anyone put super glue on the beginning and end of the stitch to lock it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    I don't think it matters a whole lot what technique you use as long as two criteria are met. The thread is of good quality and not old stock. Thread can dry rot on a spool if natural fiber or degrade like any synthetic exposed to light over time. Second - the stitches are of average or better tension and length. Stitches that are too short can almost perforate the material making a "tear on the dotted line" so to speak. In webbing this can result to split fibers and broken weaves. But you need to get pretty darn short for that to be a major problem. If the tension s too loose the bar tack or box can shift sheering the threads. Too tight and the thread can break under stress. Neither one of those scenarios is a serious risk if the simple basics of making gear are followed. I've seen both bar tacks and box/double box used commercially.
    This is a good example of "tear on the dotted line" also the stitches went over to the single layer of webbing which I wouldn't do on my straps.
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    I run 6-8 longitudinal stitches 4-6" long. Reportedly the strongest, and the easiest to sew
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    When you get into the real heavy stuff like lifting slings or towing the stitch is always the diamond stitch in the direction of force. The heavier the load, the longer the stitch needed.
    But for most applications at lower weights or stresses the [X] or [X][X] is fine.
    Certainly hanging your little butt won't be a problem.

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    In my signature I have a vid I made on how I do my webbing. But to be honest I do it slightly different each time.

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    From "On Rope".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixxr5 View Post
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    From "On Rope".
    It's kind of odd that the "X in a Box" pattern is the weakest yet is commonly used by commercial industry. Do you have link to the site where you got the picture from?

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    That stitching chart has been posted here many times and I can't find a link to the associated report.

    Here's a similar chart with the report also frequently cited on HF. Scroll down to page 11...http://www.caves.org/section/vertical/nhback/NH03.pdf

    An in depth but older report if you care to make sense of it...http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/110406.pdf

    Edit....New testing done today...https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...ad.php?t=76928
    Last edited by gmcttr; 07-28-2013 at 11:23.

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    A valid experiment tests only one variable. In a true test of stitch pattern effectiveness all elements would need to be constant except the pattern itself. Everything else must be equal: the same amount of the same thread in a strap that would exceed expected forces. If the strap breaks then the experiment has failed, not the stitch.

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