2Q and ZQ Sewn-On Doors!

**angrysparrow** · 02-22-2010, 12:00

Hey everyone..

2Q and ZQ were kind enough to let me be the first to try their new sewn-on doors modification service for the MacCat Deluxe and MacCat Ultra tarps. So, I happily sent them my MacCat Ultra to measure and work with. As we've all come to expect from Tim and Donna, what I received back is nothing short of superb!

First, they started with a well-considered door panel size, such that the door pairs not only match the tarp perfectly, but form a generous vestibule when staked out. Then, they finished each door by binding the entire perimeter edge securely with grosgrain, and added a reinforced corner guy-out panel and webbing loop. Next, each door is handily bound to the inside edge of the tarp with grosgrain with the same great sewing details that ZQ amazes us with... Finally, they added an elastic cord loop with barrel-toggle for rolling up and securing the doors when not in use. All added up, it creates a VERY secure door with 'factory' fit and finish that can be deployed or stowed at will.

I have now had the pleasure to use this tarp on two multi-day hikes and I couldn't be happier with it. It has stood up not only to driven wind and rain, but also to the icy wind and snowy conditions at Mt Rogers...all with perfect ease.

If you would like to 'storm-proof' your existing MacCat...the answer is here!

**MrToot** · 02-22-2010, 13:13

That looks great on function and quality. I am curious how you / they determined what size the doors would be. Did you pick a pitch angle or distance or ...?

**2Questions** · 02-23-2010, 06:02

Originally Posted by MrToot

That looks great on function and quality. I am curious how you / they determined what size the doors would be. Did you pick a pitch angle or distance or ...?

We hung the tarp and played around with pitch angles. I decided to go a little fatter than thinner in pitch. I wanted to have enough door overlap for those that may pitch fatter with a BMBH or just like it that way. I do myself. But then I use the same tarp year round. I found the doors are handy in blowing rain conditions as well as for winter use.

**angrysparrow** · 02-22-2010, 13:19

All the design considerations were by 2Q and ZQ. I'm sure 2Q will chime in later.

**Flounder** · 02-22-2010, 13:48

Very nice indeed! They currently have my hammock. Looks like I have another piece of gear that I will have to ship to them. Any idea on how much weight the mod added?

**Flounder** · 02-22-2010, 13:51

Also, do you notice any wind noise when the doors are rolled up and secured? Curious is the doors being bundled up are secure enough to keep them from flapping a bit, creating noise.

**2Questions** · 02-23-2010, 06:12

Originally Posted by Flounder

Also, do you notice any wind noise when the doors are rolled up and secured? Curious is the doors being bundled up are secure enough to keep them from flapping a bit, creating noise.

About the weight...we will weigh the next set we do and post it here and the website. It has to be less then the Grizz beak, probably 1/2 the weight, so probably 3 oz. is a guess.

About the door noise, I usually roll the door up to the tarp and secure it versus a gather and secure approach. Makes it tighter and less noticeable.

**BlackGoat** · 02-23-2010, 08:55

Originally Posted by 2Questions

About the weight...we will weigh the next set we do and post it here and the website. It has to be less then the Grizz beak, probably 1/2 the weight, so probably 3 oz. is a guess.

About the door noise, I usually roll the door up to the tarp and secure it versus a gather and secure approach. Makes it tighter and less noticeable.

What are your plans for the Spinn OES tarps? Are you going to offer sewn on doors for them also? Would they be made out of Spinn or Silnylon? Would their be a price difference?

I am interested in sewing on some doors to my OES Spinn Deluxe.

Thanks,

dg

**angrysparrow** · 02-22-2010, 13:54

I don't have a pre-mod weight for that tarp. I will weigh it this afternoon, though.

No noticeable noise when the doors are stowed. In fact, I routinely leave one of the doors (on the leeward end, of course) stowed overnight. No issues at all.

**pizza** · 02-22-2010, 14:48

Very nice looking mod. I might consider that mod for my MacCat Deluxe. Don't need it really now but it would be cool. After getting my Superfly I am really liking doors. I don't see the mod listed on the 2Q/ZQ site yet. Would be interested to know how much the mod costs.