It seems there a bunch of people who are using Dbl Layer hammocks now. So now my question is who uses pads only and who uses UQ or a combination of both?
It seems there a bunch of people who are using Dbl Layer hammocks now. So now my question is who uses pads only and who uses UQ or a combination of both?
Chris
I use both. Some trips I might end up on the ground (going over treeline in open, flat areas with rocks no bigger than your fist will get you there) I take pads. The rest of the time it's underquilts.
I did a CCF pad/garlington taco bottom sleep not too long ago at 14dF. I was warm.
Condensation was a problem because the pads wrapped all the way up the sides.
I am getting ready to build a 5oz Climasheild UQ and I plan to also carry a blue pad on colder hikes.
That said a driducks poncho garlington type under would probably provide as much warmth as a CCF pad in combination with an UQ. Not 100% on that but for the little amount a 1/2 length blue pad weighs its worth it and good to sit on etc.
my current uq will only take me down to around 40 degrees. any lower I supplement with a window reflector.
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i use a pad only b/c i'm too poor to buy an UQ right now. otherwise i'd scoop up one of stormcrow's in a heartbeat. i will always have at least a 24x20 section of CCF with me, regardless of the rest of my kit. it's got more uses to me than duct tape
3/4 Underquilt requires me to use a small sit-pad for the feet - so chalk me up for both.
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I acquired the UQs for an HH before getting the double-bottom WBBB hammock.
The reasoning behind this is I am debating on making an Uq out of a sleeping bag, since my poncho Uq is so heavy. I have a SPE I put together with two Wally World pads. I don't camp in the winter, I normally go out spring to late fall. Since I modified my SBPro into a Dbl layer do I really need an Uq or could I just get by with a pad?
Last edited by rigidpsycho; 02-24-2010 at 15:42.
Chris
i use a pad till my crowsnest comes. i plan to have a light IX UQ made by warmer weather so i will be phasing out the pad. the pad works well though, i had mine down to 23F last weekend.
Well, if you had a bridge hammock, I would say that the odds would be much higher of being happy with just a pad and no UQ. I can think of at least one user who told me he could tell no comfort difference, and I agree that there is zero hassle using this combo. I'm not fully certain about the comfort issue, Certainly, when first laying down in it I can't feel any problems. But I have not slept over night with a pad very much, and I'm not sure a small amount of comfort is not lost. You know how a hammock conforms to every curve of your body? And I don't think a pad manages that feat nearly so well, so it MIGHT not be as comfortable. Though still way better than the ground.
But when it comes to a full length pad diagonal in a double layer hammock, well, it is a lot better and easier to use a pad than in a single layer hammock. But I still find it to be a bit of a hassle, and the same question about all night comfort exists, compared to the possibly superior comfort of an UQ.
But hey, it will work and it will keep you warm. And if you are strictly depending on a fairly thick pad to keep you warm in a hammock, you are good to go if you should ever have to go to ground or sleep on a shelter floor, and of course for sitting around the campfire. Plus it's way cheaper, probably lighter and basically bombproof as far as moisture goes.
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