This is a great site. I was an original ultra light backpacker, canoe, bicycle camper in the 70's, 80's due to no money. Started out w/ hhexped 6 months ago, and **** you people, today ordered WBBB, wife dose not know. My 7 yo son has hh scout. Also I ordered a diagonal camo tarp from mosquito hammocks for 50 bucks, hope it works out. My son and I can paddle out to our own little sand bar w/ TREES a 1/2 mile from home, as soon as wind, rain, cold stops.