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    If you rigged it on the outside to block the wind, you may get to 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanson View Post
    What about just a space blanket when it gets down to 55-60? Is that enough, or is anything under 70-ish UQ weather?
    Yes .... might get a bit sweaty on the back .... but that just depends on you.
    Just have to see what works for you.
    I would bring my lightest UQ and hang it loose ...... or if it were hot maybe just my weathershield ... but that may or may not cut it.
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    i carry a 20x24 section of CCF all year long, and this serves as my sole bottom insulation throughout the summer in PA (may-sept). on the occasional night it's really, really cold, i'll sleep in my windshirt. the 20x24 section keeps my butt plenty warm and that's really all i need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanson View Post
    What about just a space blanket when it gets down to 55-60? Is that enough, or is anything under 70-ish UQ weather?
    The problem w/ space blankets is their mode of insulation. That is, they are not designed to hold heat in like conventional insulation (which prevents CONDUCTION of heat due to the nature of the material and CONVECTION of warm air due to the air pockets.).

    Space Blankets on the other hand are designed to stop RADIATED heat from escaping and are REALLY bad at stopping CONDUCTED heat... so if you are in close contact with the pad its gonna sap the heat off of you just like you were pressed up against any other sheet of plastic exposed psudo-direcly to the cold air.

    Space blankets have their place but I just don't think bottom insulation is it - maybe as part of a larger system but then we have condensation issues... so it'd have to be sandwiched in between other more conventional insulation to insure the temperature delta wasn't high enough to cause water droplets to form on it (yicky bathtub hammocking).

    If you want to go light use a light-weight down UQ.

    If you want to go cheap use wool blankets or foam pad (low compressibility) for these temps

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    I've always been surprised at how insulation that works very well in temps above 50*F (Thermodrape, IX, or fleece liner) is not enough in temps 45*F to 48*F.

    However, what works for me at 45*F will take me all the way to freezing. I can't figure it out!
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    Personally, I dont bother with any under insulation if its over 10c/50f.
    I did a 30F night this year with only 2 pads and no bag,just a silk liner, wearing my clothes. I woke up toasty.
    My mate was in a 0f bag/ccf and was shivering all night.

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    I'm a warm sleeper and used just a JRB Weather Shield 2 loosley hung providing warmth to about 55 deg F. I am now experiementing with my tarp poncho as a weather shield as I'll be carrying it anyway. It added quite a bit of warmth to my JRB Stealth (as an under quilt).
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    I sleep cold. That being said, I do most of my camping in hot weather. Usually I have a bugnet and down bag, and that suffices. As long as I have something to block the wind off my back, i'm good to at least 70. Actually slept in low 60's without one last August.

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