I actually have made my tensioners tied directly to the hammock, and the guylines are attached to them via double fisherman's knot. I found this helpful because then I can change the amount of guyline I wish to use depending on which tarp I use.
I actually have made my tensioners tied directly to the hammock, and the guylines are attached to them via double fisherman's knot. I found this helpful because then I can change the amount of guyline I wish to use depending on which tarp I use.
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Use a tarp with fewer guylines.
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I did this on my DIY tarp Dave, similar in design to an old Moss Outfitter Wing I have which is huge, heavy, but built like a tank. Each tie off point has a pocket with velcro closure. Works well. I always have help putting it up and down and can take the time to wrap each line and put in into the corresponding pocket.
I have found that I am kinda lazy though when it is just me and roll up the lines with the tarp when I put the snake skin on and then the lines dangle when I remove it. Minimal tangle, but I know when I am in one of those anal-retentive moods, my pockets are there.
Last edited by canoebie; 04-12-2010 at 10:48. Reason: forgot the hyphen in anal-retentive. :)
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Still working on details, but I do hope to offer a solution to this frustrating guy-line problem that will be standard on my tarps. I will try to have it coincide with the (still pending) re-start-up of Backwoods Daydreamer production.
Maybe some of you DIY enthusiasts can help with some ideas... I've added a pic of the HH solution from Rook.
Hex tarp 3.jpg
The problem in copying it is this (other than a possible HH patent issues) - most all of our DIY tarps (and near to every cottage industry tarp maker here) have a reinforcement patch and webbing loop sewn on for tie-outs. HH does not do this. They instead use the edging material to form the tie-out.
Hex tarp 6.jpg
And here's the common way we do it.
Tie-Out 6.jpg
If we want to do a similar thing, have a line pocket, any ideas on how could it be done with the reinforcement patch and webbing loop system? Would doing it the same as HH while still sewing a webbing loop onto the end cause it to loose too much space inside? Ideally it would still be hemmed into the edges.
Ideas?
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Use a diamond shape reinforcing patch, as in your third picture, but omit the interior criss-cross stitching. Just sew around the edge. Perhaps use a slightly larger diamond than the one shown. Then hang the tarp with plenty of tension and inspect the patch to see which part of the sewn seam is doing the least work. You should be able to find a 2" section of the edge seam that has less tension on it. Rip out that 2" to make the opening of your pocket. Double-sew the parts of the seam that remain, but don't make the holes too close together.
Tension may be different at different tie-out points, so look at each one. If you are the type who says, "But the tension may vary with different tie-out angles, so I should test tying to stakes, trees, poles, and rocks located left and right at least 30° of the ideal tie-out, and all angles in between ..." then I invite you to join our Recovering Perfectionist Support Group, which meets 3 times a day, 5 days a week, with a weekend hotline...
A pocket seems tough to do without changing the reinforcement. What about a short loop of shock cord sewn in? Not as slick as a pocket but a step up from a rubber band.
Otherwise the only solution for the Winter Dream tarp would be to sew an extra triangle of material over the reinforce section. That way you get the best of both features.I don't know how to work a thread injector but that seems to be a complex proposition.
Wow, lots of good ideas. I love the small pocket idea the best of all but don't feel that I could pull off adding 10 without screwing something up. This is (in my opinion) the perfect fix.
I do have an idea that came from this thread indirectly. I will go home and make an example and see what happens. I may try to post a video if it works out.
2Q & ZQ added line pockets to my Mac Ultra (in Spinn)when it was in for sewn-on doors. And pole pockets. It's pimped to the max, unless someone knows of something else that could be done. The most important thing that needs to be done is it needs to be slept under!
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Doug, you could put some art on your tarp to complete the pimpage
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I sewed my pockets right over the tabs and reinforcements. I continue to just stuff the lines in and have had no tangles. This is done on an old GG tarp as I 'somewhat' patiently wait for Scott to start production again. Somewhat. I got a little excited at his post today but alas he broke my bubble once again.
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15031
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