Why is this not the rage?

**HappyCamper** · 07-08-2010, 14:39

Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams

Maybe it's just me, but without it my WS tends to jump off the toggle while I'm just starting to hang the hammock and there isn't much weight on it.

Not just you. This happens to me too. Just like you said, when hanging the hammock, it tends to jump off toggle when no weight in hammock.

**MedicineMan** · 07-08-2010, 16:36

Jumping off the knot? Hmmmm....after I go through the sewn loop or triangle and then through the woopie I go over the soft shackle knot and immediately cinch it down by milking the bury...so far no jumping off the knot...and as mentioned earlier the stress when loaded in on the amsteel-the knot just provides a stopping point and has been easy to 'unmilk' to loosen.
Sewn loop or triangle to far from tree? I just wrap the tree hugger around the tree one more time......

**Strapped-4-Cache** · 07-08-2010, 17:40

Originally Posted by MacEntyre

Vintage hardware collection:

Mac, you can send all of your vintage hardware to me. I'm mainly a car camper lately so a few extra ounces don't bother me at all. I'll find some good uses for all of them.

**opie** · 07-08-2010, 17:58

Originally Posted by MedicineMan

Jumping off the knot? Hmmmm....after I go through the sewn loop or triangle and then through the woopie I go over the soft shackle knot and immediately cinch it down by milking the bury...so far no jumping off the knot...and as mentioned earlier the stress when loaded in on the amsteel-the knot just provides a stopping point and has been easy to 'unmilk' to loosen.
Sewn loop or triangle to far from tree? I just wrap the tree hugger around the tree one more time......

I think they are talking about their slings jumping off the marlin spike hitch.

**pizza** · 07-08-2010, 19:23

Originally Posted by beep

Pizza, your suspension and tarp arrangement is similar to mine. I am trying out the soft shackles to replace the small S-biner that currently attaches my tarp D-rings to the ridgeline prusik loops. I'm also using them with my WB Traveler with WB bug net combo...connecting the bug net nylon loops (at the ends) to the hammock suspension.

FWIW, I've made a bunch of 'em from 2.2mm Lash-It (grey). I'll be happy to send you a pair if you want try them out. PM your mailing address to me if you're interested.

Cool, thanks Beep, will do!

**TiredFeet** · 07-08-2010, 19:40

Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams

I use one on the adjustable eye. Maybe it's just me, but without it my WS tends to jump off the toggle while I'm just starting to hang the hammock and there isn't much weight on it. It's not too tight, just enough to stay in place when it needs to stay in place, but loose enough so that when I'm changing the adjustable eye it doesn't bind.

I don't think TeeDee had any problem with that and I know I didn't. I can see how it would happen though. Probably a function of the procedure used to set up. Change one aspect of the procedure and the problem may go away .... or it may get worse .... or it may stay the same and you develop other problems

We avoid the problem now by using rope huggers and connect the Whoopie Sling to the rope hugger with a scarab variant of the nacrabiner. Using that combo is what convinced us to use the scarab - you're trying to thread the nacrabiner behind the rope hugger, then through the whoopie adjustable loop and then open the spliced eye and place over the lanyard knot. And you're doing that while holding things in the same relative position. One hand to hold things, one hand to hold the nacrabiner and one hand to open the spliced eye and a fourth hand to keep it open while placing the loop over the knot

. Using the scarab eliminated the need for the third and fourth hands.

**pedro** · 07-08-2010, 23:03

I've used the loop shackle instead of a toggle on a marlinespike hitch. Cinch the hitch down, and insert whoopie sling into shackle. I haven't had any problems with this setup, but the MSH is a little more difficult to undo when breaking down because the loop shackle is so thin that it allows the MSH to get really tight. I'm a little guy, 160 lbs., so I'm not putting as much strain on it as some others would. I'm wondering if others have done this and with what results? Has anyone found that the MSH becomes so tight that they have real difficulty getting it undone?