i am going to get a HH explorer deluse at christmas and will need an underquilt for when winter comes around. it get down to 20 F at the very lowest so i was wondering what underquilt to use?
Jay
i am going to get a HH explorer deluse at christmas and will need an underquilt for when winter comes around. it get down to 20 F at the very lowest so i was wondering what underquilt to use?
Jay
To get to 20 degrees you'll still probably have to supplement most any under quilt with some type of pad or use multiple pads.
Stoikurt
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The JRB Old Rag Mountain should get you there, but I would have a pad as a backup. They are also coming out with a thicker No Sniveller.
At the Mt Rogers Campout the temps dropped past 20* and I used my 2 UL JRB quilts stacked together which gave me a loft of about 3.5 inches. I stayed toasty warm. Both the Old Rag Mt and the thicker No Sniveller have a lost of about 3.5.
In all honesty, I think the Speer SnugFit is a little conservative rated at 30*. I think it could go lower. Winter approaches so I will be able to test that theory soon.
Last edited by headchange4u; 10-06-2007 at 10:13.
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I was talking to Ed in Hot Springs at the September SEHHA Hangout about that. He said he doesn't like to give something a temperature rating really at all. But he said he does tend to go a little conservative on that. I can't blame the guy, but he does put out a doggone nice underquilt.
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I use a Speer Snugfit and would agree that the rating is conservative at 30 degrees. I think it could easily keep you warm down to twenty with a good bag/quilt and a midweight baselayer. I carry a Gossamer Gear Thinlight pad to supplement. I used it doubled over under my torso one night when the temps were supposed to dip into the low 20's but ended up too hot.
I'm making my own underquilt now with 2 layers of .6 Climashield XP. I'm hoping / supposed to be able get down to 20F with it.
I'll mostly use it as an overquilt though.
At a point in the near future, I'm planning an attempt at making a down quilt or two.
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Phooey I say!
I also say I'm taking them with me; just in case. I'll use a pad for my feet and lower legs due to the shorty UQ I'm taking. IF I get cold I can swallow my pride and use the darn pad, but I think it's really going to depend on my cold tolerances. I hear a lot of folks saying that they need some type of insulation at about 70 degrees. I've slept as low as 63 degrees and never woke-up cold (love digital thermometers with high/low memory). I had insulation with me, but intentionally went without just to see.
Even after all these years living below the frost line, I'm still a warm sleeper. I think between clothing, site selection, tarp set-up, and my UQ, I should be able to push 20 without use of pads under my torso.
At least that is what I keep repeating to myself. Behold the power of positive thinking!
cannibal, you might be surprised how warm you'll be in most cases w/ your set up.
I too will something make and joy in it's making
I hope so, but I'm no dummy. I'm taking pads in case I get cold, or worse, have to sleep with the ground dwellers. But, I really think it (cold tolerance) is based on so many things besides an Underquilt that it would be near impossible to say there is a 'right one' or even a right combination. That's why I want one of everything! He who dies with the most toys wins, right?
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