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    Webbing Find

    I bought this spool for $1.
    It's some military surplus stuff, but I can't find anything about breaking strength, and I'm not sure if it is poly or nylon.
    I know it will hold my weight (240) and that it's 1 inch wide and about 1/32(I think) thick.
    If you double it up, it looks like its 1/16th inch thick, so I estimated that it's 1/32nd.




    I'm trying to figured out if it will be good for tree straps.
    I figure even if not, it was worth $1.

    You guys have any info on breaking strength?
    I'm thinking of trying to find a way to load test it without breaking more than the webbing...

    Any tips for injecting thread into the webbing would be appreciated also.
    My old Singer did ok for the first couple straps, but had trouble later.
    I'm thinking of sharpening or replacing the needle.

    Finally, I tried something new with the pictures, so let me know if you can't see them.

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    The "different" with the pics didn't work. Can't see them.

    Here's an image from another thread about stitch patterns. I like the 100% pattern. It's really easy to do the w's, just forward and reverse angling the webbing a little bit each time. Sharp needles will work better. If you're getting a mess of thread underneath, the thread tension needs to be adjusted tighter.

    Don't know how you would test the breaking strength without the proper equipment. You'll find out if it's poly or nylon if it stretches over night. Nylon will stretch, and for that reason doesn't make the best straps.


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    Thanks, that's good to know.
    Last edited by Morgoroth; 05-29-2012 at 11:51. Reason: fixed pic

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    Always start a project with a fresh needle.

    Here's the OPs pictures...
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    Thans!
    Now I feel silly.
    I didn't know you could do attachments like that.
    Here is the third one I took
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    Nylon will melt into a blob and burn . . .
    Polyester will burn more vigorously and generate black smoke while burning

    Make a cut and fray it . . . then take a lighter to it . . but not over carpet!
    "Do or do not, there is no try." -- Yoda


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    It's gotta be at least 400 to assume safely. Always having ur backup hang handy anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detail Man View Post
    The "different" with the pics didn't work. Can't see them.

    Here's an image from another thread about stitch patterns. I like the 100% pattern. It's really easy to do the w's, just forward and reverse angling the webbing a little bit each time. Sharp needles will work better. If you're getting a mess of thread underneath, the thread tension needs to be adjusted tighter.

    Don't know how you would test the breaking strength without the proper equipment. You'll find out if it's poly or nylon if it stretches over night. Nylon will stretch, and for that reason doesn't make the best straps.

    Sorry to hijack tread but have a quick question about this image. So the stitch pattern on the left is the strongest stitch pattern for straps and one on the right is the weakest and last stitch we should be using?
    Almost every strap stitch I see is the one on the right. Thanks

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    If I recall, those stitch images were from shockload testing done on climbing straps (stretchy nylon). The purpose of climbing gear is to absorb the energy from your fall. So these "winning" stitch patterns are designed to stretch with the webbing without pulling loose, hence the results.

    The commercial industry uses the boxstitch almost exclusively (ratchet straps, lifting straps, etc.) and their lawyers approve. So it must be good.

    Cottage industry does some different patterns for a different look, all for the sake of good appearance. I've tested a few different designs and they all hold.

    I think ANY good stitch will work in the normal parameters of which we use our straps for.
    It has more to do with good thread (properly injected/sewn), good webbing, and gentle use of the straps , as we park our hind ends in the hammock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detail Man View Post

    Don't know how you would test the breaking strength without the proper equipment.
    I was thinking a wooden pallet and some free weights and a tree limb...

    What does it mean when things are rated with a working load?

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