Just got my WBB a few days ago finally got to give it a go thur afternoon and came back Sat late afternoon. It made this overnight trip make all my ground sleeping days seem like a nightmare, and even though it was raining I was nice and dry under my Superfly. However I think I'm in "need", being the key word here , of an underquilt the pad I used was ok, but I've been bit by the gear bug once again. On a last note I would like to thank Brandon for such great products. Once again thank you very much Brandon