Think I understand now, and yes I did notice the difference in quality. Other than some thread I bought at JoAnn's, I've bought all of my DIY stuff online, just wanted to finish this tarp so tried the instant gratification route. Would have gone with something smaller but I already have two sides done in 1". No worries, first thing I did when I got home was log on to and get some from Scott. Interesting, in the mountain bike community it's considered poor form to order online if you have a Local Bike Shop (LBS). Here it's just the opposite, but then I doubt too many people have a LHS.