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    Senior Member BillyBob58's Avatar
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    latest on UQ elastic suspensions?

    So I recall some folks had trouble keeping some UQs snug against their backs at extreme temps, due to shock cord not working well.

    Was a solution ever found? A different type of elastic for really cold temps? At what temps have people started having trouble with the shock cord?

    I never thought about this with the PeaPod, suspension cords are nylon plus the support provided by the full length Velcro closure helps hold things in place. But every thing else I have uses some form of shock cord. I have not had any trouble yet, but I don't want an unpleasant surprise, either.

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    I haven't had my setup below freezing yet but, the length of my suspension is made up of only half 1/8" shock cord and the other half 1/8" nylon cord (non-stretch). Whatever problems brought on by cold weather would be reduced by half with this setup. That is, if you don't find a better solution. I did this to save weight as shock cord is much heavier than plain nylon cord.

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    I added extra tabs about 30" from the foot end on all of the underquilts I own that don't already have the tabs. From these tabs, I run an extra piece of shockcord over the ridgeline. Holds the quilt up tight against the hammock, and on an asymmetrical hammock such as the WBBB, holds it up high over the footbox. You can kick around in your hammock all night, and at least for me, no shifting at all. This method works extremely well on a JRB top quilt to convert it to a UQ (also added tabs on all 4 corners,) but it also works on my Yeti and on my Hammock Gear underquilts.

    Oh, and to address your question about cold, I am from Wisconsin, and have never had an issue with shockcord in the cold. And we know about cold up here.

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    I had this problem last year on the NJ hang. The first night I used my line lock only and I got cold but because as I shifted the UQ loosened up a bit. Instead I take off the line lock (the plastic thingie with the spring inside) and instead just place my UQ where I want it, tie a loop to how tight I want it (close to the hammock) I want it and off to bed, knot tight enough no slipage. I only do this in the winter because usually in the summer I dont mind a little slipage to let it vent a bit.
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    I would think that pgibsons "thingys" would work well, or something similar. I've had problems keeping my winter UQ snugged up, and actually strung it up with prussiks and sbiners to approximate what the thingys do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCPatrick View Post
    I would think that pgibsons "thingys" would work well, or something similar. I've had problems keeping my winter UQ snugged up, and actually strung it up with prussiks and sbiners to approximate what the thingys do.

    http://arrowheadequipment.webs.com/a...s/show/1633323
    Yeah I saw those and they do look pretty neat. I hope I get to see one at the winter hang, Mabey ill try and make that my first DIY project.
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    I am lucky!

    The shock cords of my Hammock Gear 3/4 x 3 season UQ can be run OVER the pole tabs of my Clark NX-250. This was a serindipitous discovery, as it allows the cords to seek the shortest distance from the hammock end attachment points. I can still slide the UQ around to get the best coverage.

    Basically, I stumbled onto a reasonably fool-proof combo.

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    I had the CBS issue with my DIY UQ that MandyDawn made for me before we went to the Mid TN Hang in October. I had her make the UQ with a channel for the suspension. This allowed the UQ to bunch along the shockcord channel causing a larger gap under my butt. Quick fix was a section of CCF pad. Long term fix was to sew attachment points at the corners of the UQ and use some of the Triangle Thingy's from AHE. I will be out this weekend on the Chinnabee in Mt Cheaha doing some more testing and site prep for the upcoming Heart of Dixie hang scheduled for next month.
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    Simple solution for a tighter fit UQ's

    An earlier post was not noticed, so I take the liberty of posting it again.
    For a tighter fit one need to move the suspension of an UQ inwards.

    This will not solve problems with the elasticity of shockcord at low temperatures, but results in shorter lenghts of shockcord pointed in the right direction.
    The necessary adjustments I made for my HH explorer and Crowsnest are quite simple. I took a loop of stiff webbing and placed it under the knot of the hammock suspension and on top of the ridgeline.

    The Crowsnest came with S-biners for attachment. I now connect with a loop and toggle.

    Probably not as elegant as "thingys", but done in 10 minutes!

    Cheers, Tjalling

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    So I recall some folks had trouble keeping some UQs snug against their backs at extreme temps, due to shock cord not working well.

    Was a solution ever found? A different type of elastic for really cold temps? At what temps have people started having trouble with the shock cord?
    If you are going for a really cold hang(around 0 dg fahrenheit) try using some thin silicone tubing(the same stuff they use for aquariums but even thinner) they should be good down to around -40dg(silicone looses its elastic properties around -58dg - so theres still a good safety margin)

    If you are having troubles running it through the channels of your UQ try using baby powder(talcum) just a little will do.

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